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Old 10-31-2014, 10:12 PM   #1
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E R Barker 75% return on investment @Aqueduct in 2014!!

E R Barker's 7 wins at Aqueduct have averaged $10 per win and he is giving a 75% return on investment per $2 win bet at Aqueduct so far for the 2014 season.

For those who are more conservative he has provided a 36% return on investment when wagering his horses across the board.

If you wagered $2 to win, place and show on his horses since the beginning of the year it would have cost you $120 and you would have won $163.30 giving a profit of $43.30 giving you a 36% return on your money.

Not too shabby I will be watching him for the season at Aqueduct!!


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Old 11-08-2014, 08:59 PM   #2
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He had one that didn't figure at all run last at 80-1 today.

Two more entries this week.
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Old 11-08-2014, 09:06 PM   #3
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Old 11-09-2014, 02:10 AM   #4
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E R Barker's 7 wins at Aqueduct have averaged $10 per win and he is giving a 75% return on investment per $2 win bet at Aqueduct so far for the 2014 season.

For those who are more conservative he has provided a 36% return on investment when wagering his horses across the board.

If you wagered $2 to win, place and show on his horses since the beginning of the year it would have cost you $120 and you would have won $163.30 giving a profit of $43.30 giving you a 36% return on your money.

Not too shabby I will be watching him for the season at Aqueduct!!
It would had been good if we knew this a year before; now that we found out is a little bit too late!!!

It is a huge mistake for the horse bettor to expect this kind of a stat to be repeated again...
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Old 11-09-2014, 10:15 AM   #5
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Seems to me "systems" such as this are very short lived. One reason is due to condition changes for each horse with each win. As they approach their talent threshold wins come much less frequently. That is a major factor in why racing barns have such a high turnover rate. They want horses with an open book for conditions to run at.
A handicapper's ability to anticipate upcoming win surges for a barn with a fresh string is a key to collecting win steaks for trainer based systems.
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Old 11-09-2014, 12:33 PM   #6
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to the op. believe me when i tell nice stats like the one you illustrate is noticed by others, and it probably is put into the formulator thingy that drf subscriber's use.
years ago when it was a rarity for handicappers to have data bases, stats like those you mention "might" have been great value. nowadays database mining by horseplayers is passe'.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:51 AM   #7
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er barker

whats his website ty
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:15 AM   #8
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It would had been good if we knew this a year before; now that we found out is a little bit too late!!!

It is a huge mistake for the horse bettor to expect this kind of a stat to be repeated again...
You are also making a very good case for why statistics in general are deficient when applied to horse races--knowledge of the outcome of the events on which the statistics were based was unknown at the time of the events. Regression studies of past races--even without the backfitting syndrome in small models--is always less productive than it seems to be.
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Old 11-12-2014, 08:10 PM   #9
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whats his website ty
Hey fight just go to the link below and select the drop downs for the Trainer, Distance, Race Type*, Surface, and From, to Dates:

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/Hors.../?page_id=1183

*I grouped all Optional Claiming races (i.e. Optional, Starter Optional, etc.) as Allowance Optional Claiming. It just became too much to keep them separate as a Race Type.

If you have a buck $1 and an android device you can get the app if you like the demo above.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...evelop.Webview

go to the NYC racing link I'm looking for serious testers of the app.
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E R Barker is now 0 for 2 since last post

E R Barker is now 0 wins for his last 2 entries since the last post with a 3rd place finish today with Jeter in the 5th race.

I was hoping for a bigger price hitting the board but the favorite won this race so all of the win, place and show prices were a bit short.



Since going 0 for his last 2 starts E R Barker's horses are now only giving you a 59% return on your money to win and a 26% return on your money if you played all of his horses to win, place and show for $2.

His win return on investment has taken a big hit from 75% to 59% since going 0 for his last 2.

His win, place and show return on investment has gone down from 36% to 26% as his horses only hit the board once in 2 attempts.

However, I will still be keeping an eye on him for the rest of the season at Aqueduct.

*ML Odds indicates Morning Line Odds

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