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Old 12-04-2020, 11:26 AM   #226
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Aren't you the same guy who touts the US healthcare system sucks and we should all be like Canada?

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Old 12-04-2020, 11:28 AM   #227
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It's pretty easy for everyone to see. NOT a conspiracy
UI feel sorry for you. But we will revisit your conspiracy theories 1/20/821
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Old 12-04-2020, 11:54 AM   #229
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Trumpite Falsehood #101. No, sonny, tests do not cause cases.
so you are saying there are some cases without being confirmed by a test? like the guy who got in a motorcycle crash, obviously caused by covid?
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Old 12-04-2020, 01:26 PM   #230
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Maybe, but the European Union, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan , and Taiwan have a good shot at knoweing. Btw, jimmty we lost 2,777 yesterday.
Japan lost a total during the ENTIRE pandemic of less than that.

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Shove that into your crystal ball
If they would have isolated, they'd still be alive. Not all but many. You ask me to mask up to save lives. Why aren't you asking at-risk people to self isolate to save lives?

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Old 12-04-2020, 01:33 PM   #231
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so you are saying there are some cases without being confirmed by a test? like the guy who got in a motorcycle crash, obviously caused by covid?
and the hospital was able to tack on a 20% surcharge to a $20k Emergency Room DOA case just by administering a $10 test. I bet the hospital admins were high fiving in the back room. Good bonus coming year end.
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Old 12-04-2020, 02:08 PM   #232
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So out of 100 contries ranked according to deaths per 100k population, you are not concerns that the US which used to be the premier world leader on health, infectious diseases and nobel prizes, has degenerated to thee world's bottom worst 10%?

And you guys wonder why I call your moron an inept schmuck for being responsible
You keep blaming all these deaths to President Trump... which is a pure BS. At the same time passing over the fact... fact mind you. That the actions of Coumo and his alone... directly resulted in the spread and deaths of over 7000 elderly citizens of NY... probably more. That there is your Moron. Multiply his action by the Democratic run factor of moron see moron due cause you know they did... cause Cuomo was the poster moron of the Democrats response. Hell they gave the idiot a ****ing Emmy for his rendition of little Hitler. But instead of gassing victims to death he infected the most vulnerable with China Flu. That is your Moron.

Beyond that Trumps Administration moved heaven and earth in the fight against the China Virus. You ungrateful wad.
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Old 12-04-2020, 02:43 PM   #233
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Trumpite Falsehood #101. No, sonny, tests do not cause cases.
Who's to say how many could of caught it from contact with testers or testies...

But testing does identify and confirm... if they test less they confirm less report less... is that not the case?
Also in total how many + show as Asymptomatic... got a chart on that graphman.
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Old 12-04-2020, 04:31 PM   #234
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Beyond that Trumps Administration moved heaven and earth in the fight against the China Virus.
This is pure delusion.
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Old 12-04-2020, 04:38 PM   #235
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You keep blaming all these deaths to President Trump... which is a pure BS. At the same time passing over the fact... fact mind you. That the actions of Coumo and his alone... directly resulted in the spread and deaths of over 7000 elderly citizens of NY... probably more. That there is your Moron. Multiply his action by the Democratic run factor of moron see moron due cause you know they did... cause Cuomo was the poster moron of the Democrats response. Hell they gave the idiot a ****ing Emmy for his rendition of little Hitler. But instead of gassing victims to death he infected the most vulnerable with China Flu. That is your Moron.

Beyond that Trumps Administration moved heaven and earth in the fight against the China Virus. You ungrateful wad.
Time to put this myth to rest. Nursing Home deaths in NY were not caused by Cuomo. The false narrative is that the virus spread when Cuomo forced nursing homes to accept Covid positive patients in order to free up space in hospitals. However, the peak of nursing home deaths preceded the influx of Covid patients from hospitals to nursing homes by a week. And almost all of those patients were past the contagious phase.

In the meantime, over 37,500 (25%) nursing home staff were positive for Covid. This was before the deaths began. Since Covid can be transmitted before symptoms appear, this is where most of the infections occurred. There was also unintended transmission from family members unaware they were infected.

Summarizing:
37,500 New York nursing home staff were infected with Covid-19 starting in early March. These workers were in close, frequent contact with residents. At least in the beginning, they were not aware they were ill. They were contagious.
The peak influx of Covid-19 patients from hospitals into nursing homes occurred about one week after the peak in nursing home deaths. You can’t have cause after effect.
COVID-19 patients coming from hospitals were, for the most part recovering and non contagious. They were also isolated from healthy residents.

All of this information is in a study put out by the New York State Department of Health in July. Not that you will ever look at it.
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Old 12-04-2020, 05:20 PM   #236
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Time to put this myth to rest. Nursing Home deaths in NY were not caused by Cuomo. The false narrative is that the virus spread when Cuomo forced nursing homes to accept Covid positive patients in order to free up space in hospitals. However, the peak of nursing home deaths preceded the influx of Covid patients from hospitals to nursing homes by a week. And almost all of those patients were past the contagious phase.

In the meantime, over 37,500 (25%) nursing home staff were positive for Covid. This was before the deaths began. Since Covid can be transmitted before symptoms appear, this is where most of the infections occurred. There was also unintended transmission from family members unaware they were infected.

Summarizing:
37,500 New York nursing home staff were infected with Covid-19 starting in early March. These workers were in close, frequent contact with residents. At least in the beginning, they were not aware they were ill. They were contagious.
The peak influx of Covid-19 patients from hospitals into nursing homes occurred about one week after the peak in nursing home deaths. You can’t have cause after effect.
COVID-19 patients coming from hospitals were, for the most part recovering and non contagious. They were also isolated from healthy residents.

All of this information is in a study put out by the New York State Department of Health in July. Not that you will ever look at it.
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The peak influx of Covid-19 patients from hospitals into nursing homes
Meaning they had placed infected people in nursing homes at some point prior to that peak... could those ones accounted for the 37,500 staffs rapid rise in infection and transmission rate leading to thousands of deaths within said Nursing Homes!

So...

Nope all on Cuomo... Did he use the Medical Ship Trump sent? Nope the dictative prick would not us it. His State... His failures... His deaths. Maybe if he should of spent less time hamming it up on TV.
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Meaning they had placed infected people in nursing homes at some point prior to that peak... could those ones accounted for the 37,500 staffs rapid rise in infection and transmission rate leading to thousands of deaths within said Nursing Homes!

So...

Nope all on Cuomo... Did he use the Medical Ship Trump sent? Nope the dictative prick would not us it. His State... His failures... His deaths. Maybe if he should of spent less time hamming it up on TV.
It’s impossible to argue with you because you are so dumb. Logic has no effect. Facts have no effect. Staff got their infection out in the community and brought it to the homes, not the other way around. The same study established that.

As for the USS Comfort. Cuomo never refused to use it, but by the time it was up and running the city had sufficient hospital beds.
One, measures put in place by Cuomo had eased the surge. Two, emergency facilities such a 2000 bed hospital at Javitts center went into operation.

Trump is the one who would refuse to do something because he thinks it will make him appear weak or stupid. Not Cuomo.
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It’s impossible to argue with you because you are so dumb. Logic has no effect. Facts have no effect. Staff got their infection out in the community and brought it to the homes, not the other way around. The same study established that.

As for the USS Comfort. Cuomo never refused to use it, but by the time it was up and running the city had sufficient hospital beds.
One, measures put in place by Cuomo had eased the surge. Two, emergency facilities such a 2000 bed hospital at Javitts center went into operation.

Trump is the one who would refuse to do something because he thinks it will make him appear weak or stupid. Not Cuomo.
Sure thing you discard all the facts that oppose your narrative.. nothing new there.

If it was not for Trump's Administration covering funding those beds would of never happened.

U.S. Army Corps of Engineer, The New York National Guard, and center workers and the are working to prepare the makeshift hospital facility, which is expected to begin operating in a week to 10 days, Cuomo said this expects to increase patient capacity and is also asking FEMA to operate four pop-up hospitals, a step that has support from President Donald Trump.


President Trump did not refuse any request for assistance even from Killer Cuomo.
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so you are saying there are some cases without being confirmed by a test?]like the guy who got in a motorcycle crash, obviously
Trump said"more Covid-19 testing ‘creates more cases."

And you fools believed him. Still do.
Does taking your temperate give and increase you fevers?
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If they would have isolated, they'd still be alive. Not all but many. You ask me to mask up to save lives. Why aren't you asking at-risk people to self isolate to save lives?
Who would still be alive?

So you are a boxcar disciple? Did the devil ask you to wear masks and give up your "god given personal liberty", so George Soros, and Bill Gates and all them evil globalists can do a "great reset" and imprint you innocents with the "mark of the beast"

Sorry. I lose track of Trumpite cult explanations for denying viruses
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