W O W ! ! ! !

[Quesmark]

Originally Posted by Tom

Trakus chart.....

http://www.dubairacingclub.com/race/...o/trakus-chart

Thanks for the link:
DWC race went in 24.81/48.28/1:12.93/1:37.86/2:02.15 splits.

Arrogate had plenty left after an running an opening quarter of 26.61 he ran the final mile in a respectable 1:35.49 he wasn't rushed early,and was able to pick up the pieces late.What was impressive was the poise he showed in overcoming trouble and the willingness to not quit,and the patience Mike Smith used in getting him back in the race.
Quality way above average performance no doubt,historically great hmmm...

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by Murph

When that (poor break) happens to I. Ortiz he doesn't seem to know how to react. We've seen him pull up in that situation while the horse looks willing to run. He doesn't seem to understand when he needs to send or when best to save the horse.

That said, I can't compare anything IO does in relation to the riding talents of Mike Smith. It's like comparing animal to vegetable, not even fruit to fruit.

TP didn't need the lead to beat that crap field, right?

Problem was the 4 cut over, the 7 got position, and she got compromised and boxed and she couldn't deal with it.

Lets say she gets rushed to the lead, battles with a no-chancer in the 4 and loses. Then we'd hear the opposite. "She should have sat, and let the others duel. She is way too good to battle on the front end.".

[Fager Fan]

Originally Posted by Quesmark

But Arrogate isn't normally an "extreme closer"...

I'm not sure that's relevant except to compliment the horse's versatility.

Usually a slow pace is a disadvantage to deep closers except when the track dictates differently. Turf and synth for example as a norm, and then the dirt track that isn't playing to speed. Some have said the track today was bad for speed. Again, taking away nothing from the horse, but if that's true, then maybe Arrogate's wasnt quite as astonishing as it seemed and Gun Runner's race was even better than it seemed.

[pandy]

This race shows how important it is for tracks to avoid a speed bias surface. I guess the rain made the track more tiring, but if the track had been the way it was a few weeks ago, we would not have had the chance to witness this incredible performance. Speed biased tracks are very bad for the sport, takes a lot of excitement out of racing.

[olddaddy]

Smith mentioned that after he got squeezed and was forced to ride behind the field he thought of riding Arrogate like Zenyatta and see what happens. I guess it all comes down to be a good enough rider to get experience in mounts like Zenyatta.

[GMB@BP]

The pace was fair, not slow. To have that many things go wrong and still come home in under 24...lol, but let's talk about the ride some more.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Quesmark

But Arrogate isn't normally an "extreme closer"...

It doesn't matter what Arrogate "normally" is. He was an extreme closer TODAY...and the race conditions didn't do him any favors.

[Racetrack Playa]

Originally Posted by olddaddy

Smith mentioned that after he got squeezed and was forced to ride behind the field he thought of riding Arrogate like Zenyatta and see what happens. I guess it all comes down to be a good enough rider to get experience in mounts like Zenyatta.

Smith also said the starter bailed on him as the last horse loaded , I havent watched a replay yet, but WOW
What a HORSE

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

It doesn't matter what Arrogate "normally" is. He was an extreme closer TODAY...and the race conditions didn't do him any favors.

Thank you. Some sense to the conversation.

We have a very excellent horse that can run on the front, or from dead last and beat his best competitors.

A very special horse.

[thaskalos]

When a horse shows this level of versatility...and complements it with the ability and consistency that Arrogate has already shown...then this horse becomes the nightmare of every opposing horse and trainer.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker

Thank you. Some sense to the conversation.

Oh my! Has the conversation been devoid of sense until this point?

Thanks for letting everyone know sense has arrived.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Oh my! Has the conversation been devoid of sense until this point?

Thanks for letting everyone know sense has arrived.

For the record...Lemon Drop Husker and I are NOT the same person.

[Racetrack Playa]

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker

Yep.

You're right. I'm wrong. End of discussion.

It was an easy ride. Arrogate is the best horse in the world. Just showed himself to be as much.

Patient? Really? Broke like hell, was dead last, and out of step. Sure, I give Smith credit for regrouping and letting the horse get his feet underneath him, but to say it was a great ride is preposterous. Just as much as it is to say Ortiz's ride on Terra Promessa is preposterous.

I guess I'm just stupid.

Durkin could have ridden Arrogate.He is Equine Perfection

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Oh my! Has the conversation been devoid of sense until this point?

Thanks for letting everyone know sense has arrived.

Yep. And at no point in time did you add sense to the topic. Not once.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by Racetrack Playa

Durkin could have ridden Arrogate.He is Equine Perfection

Ha.

In the form we'd see Arrogate carrying +140