Obama, Hillary, and Russian nuclear scandal

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Clocker

A deal with a Russian company involving uranium from this country required approval of our government. Lots of Russian money changed hands at the time, including donations to the Clinton Foundation and a $500,000 fee for Bill Clinton to give a speech in Russia. Pure coincidence, of course.

Those involved with the approval included Hillary, Holder, Mueller, and Rosenstein. The latter two are now involved in investigating alleged Russian influences on Trump's election.

Recently revealed info shows that all of the above were aware, before the approval, of an FBI investigation showing Russian bribery and kickbacks in this country, but the deal was approved and the investigation was quietly dropped.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...administration

Okay... so its politicians getting kickbacks? That's the scandal?

If the item were toaster ovens would this be a story?

[woodtoo]

That's your take on the Hill story or just Clockers post?

[davew]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Okay... so its politicians getting kickbacks? That's the scandal?

If the item were toaster ovens would this be a story?

$150 million to Clinton Foundation
FBI head at time Mueller knew of bribery and kickbacks and let it slide along with his 2nd Comey

Mueller now investigating Russian connections that include himself....

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Okay... so its politicians getting kickbacks? That's the scandal?

If the item were toaster ovens would this be a story?

Toaster ovens are boring. Cheap, sleazy political drama is entertaining.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Toaster ovens are boring. Cheap, sleazy political drama is entertaining.

But if Meuller doesn't profit from any kickbacks. Did his due diligence at the time and approved the deal... how is this a story if the word uranium isn't used?

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

But if Meuller doesn't profit from any kickbacks. Did his due diligence at the time and approved the deal... how is this a story if the word uranium isn't used?

Mueller was doing it for politics, not kickbacks. He was head of the FBI at the time. The FBI had an informer working inside the dealings, giving them the details of Russian scams. The FBI and DOJ kept it out of the media. Obama's DOJ threatened the informer with prison time if he ever went public with it.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Mueller was doing it for politics, not kickbacks. He was head of the FBI at the time. The FBI had an informer working inside the dealings, giving them the details of Russian scams. The FBI and DOJ kept it out of the media. Obama's DOJ threatened the informer with prison time if he ever went public with it.

Give the guy anything he wants and lock up the Clinton's for twenty years.

[davew]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

But if Meuller doesn't profit from any kickbacks. Did his due diligence at the time and approved the deal... how is this a story if the word uranium isn't used?

Mueller was the bagman who went to Russia with a uranium sample for the Clintons. If the entire story comes out and acted on, many democrats will go down. Mueller benefitted in some way, and it wasn't radiation poisoning.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by davew

Mueller was the bagman who went to Russia with a uranium sample for the Clintons. If the entire story comes out and acted on, many democrats will go down. Mueller benefitted in some way, and it wasn't radiation poisoning.

The DOJ doesn’t have the balls

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Mueller was doing it for politics, not kickbacks. He was head of the FBI at the time. The FBI had an informer working inside the dealings, giving them the details of Russian scams. The FBI and DOJ kept it out of the media. Obama's DOJ threatened the informer with prison time if he ever went public with it.

Ahh... so the head of the FBI was in it for political gain and the Clinton's and others got kickbacks.

None of this though sounds particularly out of the norm for politicians.

The investigation was shut down AND the DOJ threatened the informant with prison time if he went public or one of the two or both but unrelated? The last two are likely and even imaginable the first one sounds more sinister but...

Again replace uranium with shopping carts though and no one would care.

The crux of this whole thing is we had a large stockpile we needed to get rid of. With New START in effect neither nation has any use for it.

[elysiantraveller]

Nevermind this is about that stupid mining company.

Who cares... the Russians were being Russians, the Clinton's apparently being Clinton's, and this probe conducting a investigation on backdoor channels said Russians were using to be Russians.

Replace Uranium with Pyrite and...

... No one would care.

The sheer amount of the stuff we both already have is enough fulfill any strategic need we may have. Last i checked we're still decommissioning the stuff under New START.

It's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

[fast4522]

The Uranium might be only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, but making democrats radioactive for years is priceless. What the 80's taught some of us is understand exactly what you have before you do business, and get the most out of it. I know, before your time.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by fast4522

The Uranium might be only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, but making democrats radioactive for years is priceless. What the 80's taught some of us is understand exactly what you have before you do business, and get the most out of it. I know, before your time.

I'm not as polarized as a lot on here. Point I was making is uranium sounds scary hence why this is really a story.

Facts are facts though and the Russians sold us 500 metric tons of the enriched stuff, weapons grade, from '93-'13 after they de-enriched it as requested so we could use it for our reactors.

They are still (though they may already be done) deactivitating stockpiles of the stuff as we still are. Uranium is really only good for three things; Highly enriched for weapons, lower grade for reactors though you can make glass out of it, depleted for bullets.

Other than that it's a story of the Clinton's being sleazy which we all know and what cost them the election. Russians being sneaky, which we all knew unless you are now a Trump supporter . Finally, the FBI was investigating Russian sneakiness and then told to stop I would presume because this sale may habe ended the need for investigation.

[chadk66]

reading all this, I've come to the conclusion there is nothing the Clintons could ever do to get their minions to turn against them. I don't think I've ever witnessed anything quite like this aside from probably islamic extremists believing there are virgins for them lol. Remember when Trump gave the "I could shoot somebody on fifth avenue" speech? Well this is a living example of the kind of cult following the Clintons have

[reckless]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

I'm not as polarized as a lot on here. Point I was making is uranium sounds scary hence why this is really a story.

Facts are facts though and the Russians sold us 500 metric tons of the enriched stuff, weapons grade, from '93-'13 after they de-enriched it as requested so we could use it for our reactors.

They are still (though they may already be done) deactivitating stockpiles of the stuff as we still are. Uranium is really only good for three things; Highly enriched for weapons, lower grade for reactors though you can make glass out of it, depleted for bullets.

Other than that it's a story of the Clinton's being sleazy which we all know and what cost them the election. Russians being sneaky, which we all knew unless you are now a Trump supporter . Finally, the FBI was investigating Russian sneakiness and then told to stop I would presume because this sale may habe ended the need for investigation.

It seems to me that during the times when this deal went down, during the treasonous years of Obama and Clinton, Putin's 'Russia' was not the enemy of the USA, obviously. Putin and 'Russia' were our allies then, according to Obama, Hillary!, serial rapist Bill Clinton, and other crumb bums such as Mueller, Comey, Rosenstein, plus a few more Democrat villains.

It is only after the historic 2016 election of Donald Trump that 'Russia' became the bad guy. I see.

The people that hate the USA and Trump yet ignore the Obama, Hillary, Mueller, CNN, MSNBC role in this crime against America are truly stupid and simple minded.

God bless America and God save America.