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Old 09-22-2017, 03:33 PM   #16
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This is a good example that shows that when it comes to the brain, science still has a long way to go toward solving behavioral issues.

Society is still using a sledgehammer approach when it comes to correcting behavior. We throw them in the slammer and hope they change after doing time. The same thing society has been doing for a thousand years. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.

Science has a long way to go.
That isn't always the case. I have a friend who worked in various State of California mental hospitals over a dozen years as a psych tech. The criminals in there stay in unlocked dorms and are basically allowed to roam free without restraints. They rarely lock them down or put them in restraints no matter how bad they behave. My friend did not start working in those institutions till he was in his late 30's and said it changed one major thing about him. He went from being against the death penalty his whole adult life to saying he would happily shoot a lot of the patients between the eyes if he could get away with it. He said some people are just evil and there isn't any drug or therapy that will fix them. He said the mental hospitals don't have any higher success rate of curing people than the prison system. My nephew fits that bill, doesn't matter if you pat him on the back or kick him in the ass the results are the same.
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Old 09-23-2017, 06:39 AM   #17
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That isn't always the case. I have a friend who worked in various State of California mental hospitals over a dozen years as a psych tech. The criminals in there stay in unlocked dorms and are basically allowed to roam free without restraints. They rarely lock them down or put them in restraints no matter how bad they behave. My friend did not start working in those institutions till he was in his late 30's and said it changed one major thing about him. He went from being against the death penalty his whole adult life to saying he would happily shoot a lot of the patients between the eyes if he could get away with it. He said some people are just evil and there isn't any drug or therapy that will fix them. He said the mental hospitals don't have any higher success rate of curing people than the prison system. My nephew fits that bill, doesn't matter if you pat him on the back or kick him in the ass the results are the same.
This is so true. My first wife worked as a therapist in a state mental hospital for 32 years. Some people are born evil and better off dead for everyone's sake. Very, very few progress to full rehabilitation.
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This is so true. My first wife worked as a therapist in a state mental hospital for 32 years. Some people are born evil and better off dead for everyone's sake. Very, very few progress to full rehabilitation.
I never hear death penalty opponents ever acknowledge the risk innocent people are put at by keeping the most dangerous criminals alive. In fact I rarely even hear death penalty proponents mention it. The state mental hospitals are a lot more dangerous than the prisons because of the freedoms allowed the inmates. Pretty sure the state your ex wife worked in wasn't as lax as California. My friend probably worked at a half dozen of them throughout the state, all of them had had a recent (within a few years) fatal assault of staff. Since it isn't the poor prisoners allegedly getting mistreated the horrors inside don't get any news coverage. There was a death at one facility while my friend worked there, even the local TV news didn't cover it.
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