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08-30-2017, 07:29 PM
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just from what i view. and if i am wrong correct me. after viewing a sample of the stats lens, it reminds me of TMs plus pro. just more clicking on plus pro. it does not give the true odds but it looks like a different format. plus its offered by TM
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08-30-2017, 07:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ldiatone
now isnt Stats lens supported by Trackmaster? you can buy it on there site. is it there program?
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It is a TM/EQ program which if it uses their figures to make stats...
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08-30-2017, 07:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ldiatone
? now i am just asking. why do you think TimeformUS is so superior to drf or bris? what do you think the differences are?
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I have been working with CJ's figures for quite a while now and have used them extensively and they tend to provide a better overall anaysis of a horses performance because they are adjusted for pace.
Plus having the pace figures of the running of the race allows you to deduce your opinions of why horses can be upgraded or downgraded thus allowing for more bets on underlays or just as important bet against underlays.
I also do not think the Beyer figures are as accurate as they used to be for the higher end horses (alw, stakes) and also I think the Beyer figures are useless on turf races.
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08-30-2017, 07:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
If you think the pace and speed figures at Equibase are great, I'll just say good luck.
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It depends how you use them? I look at both dirt speed and pace figures together and see if they're significantly higher than the competition. It works!
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08-30-2017, 07:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
I have been working with CJ's figures for quite a while now and have used them extensively and they tend to provide a better overall anaysis of a horses performance because they are adjusted for pace.
Plus having the pace figures of the running of the race allows you to deduce your opinions of why horses can be upgraded or downgraded thus allowing for more bets on underlays or just as important bet against underlays.
I also do not think the Beyer figures are as accurate as they used to be for the higher end horses (alw, stakes) and also I think the Beyer figures are useless on turf races.
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ok thanks for the answer. makes sense
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08-30-2017, 07:54 PM
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cj does one have to buy races for the Printing icon to show? on the free daily i did not view the printing icon. thanks
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08-30-2017, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ldiatone
cj does one have to buy races for the Printing icon to show? on the free daily i did not view the printing icon. thanks
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I'll have to ask, I can't check it with account. I get the icon no matter what.
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08-31-2017, 06:09 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Can't print on the freebies.
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08-31-2017, 10:58 PM
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Has anybody ever tried Pizzola' s post time daily? I know it's used for BM and valuecapper but I'm curious if anyone has tried it on its own?
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08-31-2017, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Secondbest
Has anybody ever tried Pizzola' s post time daily? I know it's used for BM and valuecapper but I'm curious if anyone has tried it on its own?
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What does it matter when Jockey/Trainer is 85% of the game?
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09-01-2017, 02:07 AM
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here is a oldie but goodie
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09-02-2017, 03:56 AM
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I'll go with TM and HDW over Bris or Drf, Coke in a bottle, Pepsi in can, Nikon, and Mary Ann.
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09-03-2017, 12:18 AM
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Track master/euibase
To they are the best. Ive compared them to beyers,brisket and timeform. Especially in high class races. Last weeks travers, west coast was a standout off is last race,compared to any one else's based on the track master/ equibase speed figure. I keyed on him for my pick 4 and made a large score.
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09-03-2017, 02:19 AM
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IMO...the guys at Equibase/Trackmaster should be arrested for impersonating the real figure-makers.
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09-03-2017, 07:59 AM
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crusty old guy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eldee wins
To they are the best. Ive compared them to beyers,brisket and timeform. Especially in high class races. Last weeks travers, west coast was a standout off is last race,compared to any one else's based on the track master/ equibase speed figure. I keyed on him for my pick 4 and made a large score.
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Sorry. I just can't trust someone's opinion if they only have four posts since 2008 and whose English is not his/her native language.
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