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Old 04-11-2017, 11:26 AM   #31
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Uh huh. If they removed an individual because they were Muslim, every liberal in this country would be screaming their lungs out.
Sure, and they why wouldn't they? If the flight wasn't full and they removed a person because he/she was a Muslim that is obviously textbook profiling. That has nothing to do with this situation. The person was removed from this flight because his seat number was randomly selected by a computer on a full flight (where they needed their employees to board) and he didn't comply. If you bothered to read the rest of my post you would notice that I said the airline mishandled the situation and should have acted differently. At the same time, them removing this person is not a "breach of contract" or "illegal" or whatever. Always read the fine print.

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Old 04-11-2017, 12:01 PM   #32
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Sure, and they why wouldn't they? If the flight wasn't full and they removed a person because he/she was a Muslim that is obviously textbook profiling. That has nothing to do with this situation. The person was removed from this flight because his seat number was randomly selected by a computer on a full flight (where they needed their employees to board) and he didn't comply. If you bothered to read the rest of my post you would notice that I said the airline mishandled the situation and should have acted differently. At the same time, them removing this person is not a "breach of contract" or "illegal" or whatever. Always read the fine print.
But I am saying that every liberal would be screaming their lungs out, whether the flight was full or not if they removed a Muslim. You know I am correct on that.

I did read your whole post. If you bothered to read my whole post, you would clearly see that I was agreeing with you on how it was handled improperly.

Now, you claiming it is not illegal, there are lawyers on TV saying that it is illegal because they were already seated. I have no idea if this is correct or not. We'll see how it plays out.
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:25 PM   #33
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Old 04-11-2017, 01:49 PM   #34
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Watch until the end for the United commercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV28_ENzFog
That's some big time in your face funny stuff...
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Old 04-11-2017, 02:36 PM   #35
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United Airlines - "Not enough seating? Prepare for a beating."
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Old 04-11-2017, 03:21 PM   #36
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Old 04-11-2017, 05:12 PM   #37
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A DOCTOR, asked to surrender his seat to a "United employee"? To a CIA or an FBI employee, yes...but, COME ON. I thought "the customer is KING".
They treated him like a king.........Rodney King.
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Old 04-11-2017, 06:05 PM   #38
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Uh huh. If they removed an individual because they were Muslim, every liberal in this country would be screaming their lungs out.

The proper way this should have been done is the way it is handled every day. The airline keeps bumping the offer up until someone accepts it. Almost EVERYONE at some point will accept some offer. But no, United decided they weren't going to offer more than $800.00. So now, this will cost them millions in lost revenue and it should. Secondly, it absolutely should have been done before everyone is on the plane. Once, I'm on the plane, no way am I volunteering to leave.
I'm pretty sure if you checked a bag, it won't be staying behind with you either.
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Old 04-11-2017, 06:15 PM   #39
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It's not as if the employees were flying standby for vacation or anything, they had to be on the flight to work a flight the next morning. Without a flight crew to man that flight the next morning, it would have been delayed or even cancelled, thus creating a ripple effect down the line.
How the hell did they have an entire crew that needed to be placed in Louisville? A serious screwup on their part is what that is, and they expect passengers to be inconvenienced for their screw up?

If there is some kind of catch-all in the fine print, then I'd expect it to be for a reasonable reason that they jerk me off a flight. There are all sorts of reasons why someone may not have the luxury of not getting home (or to their destination) when planned. This was an unreasonable reason.

In addition, can we negotiate that fine print? No, which makes it not airtight legal.
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I find it crazy that no one jumped at the $800+hotel offer. I've been on flights where they were looking for volunteers to give up their seat and I've never seen it get above $300 before people are practically jumping over others to get that money.

And another thing that's good to know if you should ever find yourself in this situation: you don't have to take the compensation in airline vouchers. You CAN request a check.

In the US, they don't have to offer cash if you volunteer, and I have never heard of it being done. If you are involuntarily bumped, you can demand cash. I assume no one on that flight leapt at the $800 because it was a voucher for more crappy flights on United.
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Old 04-11-2017, 08:47 PM   #41
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How the hell did they have an entire crew that needed to be placed in Louisville?
Flight crews are restricted by law as to how many hours they can work and how much rest time they must have before returning to work. The crew originally schedule for that flight the next day probably worked a flight that was delayed and put in too many hours.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:32 PM   #42
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I do agree at some point he should have given up the fight but still doesn't make United right.
This is generally my opinion as well. It is 90 % a major **** up by United, but at some point there does need to be a respect for authority (were they authorities who took him off the plane). The screaming and physical resistance was not necessary to that extreme.
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This is generally my opinion as well. It is 90 % a major **** up by United, but at some point there does need to be a respect for authority (were they authorities who took him off the plane). The screaming and physical resistance was not necessary to that extreme.
He started screaming when someone not only put their hands on him, but also when he was being jerked over the armrest. He was seated at the window with the middle armrest down. I've sat in that seat enough times to know you can't get out, at least not easily or without some pain, with that armrest down. I think someone being manhandled over the armrest would cause loud vocals by anyone to whom that was done.
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Flight crews are restricted by law as to how many hours they can work and how much rest time they must have before returning to work. The crew originally schedule for that flight the next day probably worked a flight that was delayed and put in too many hours.
Once they board you they have accepted carriage...

So why didn't they take those crew members by ground... it's a what four hour drive to shuttle the needed crew. Would of cost less then the $3200 offered up. And no adverse backlash for being As-holes to paying customers.
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Old 04-12-2017, 01:10 PM   #45
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This is generally my opinion as well. It is 90 % a major **** up by United, but at some point there does need to be a respect for authority (were they authorities who took him off the plane). The screaming and physical resistance was not necessary to that extreme.
Hey, I'll be the authority here.
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