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Immortal6 · 10-21-2017, 12:28 PM

For those of you that play Laurel (I myself never have) is the rail as dead as the forms are making it seem? There is a horse in the 4th race there today

Pete's Play Call that I have bet his last couple of races, but I'm shying away due to what looks like a terrible spot on the rail today. Advice? Thoughts? Thanks fellas.

Robert Fischer · 10-21-2017, 12:37 PM

I'll keep an eye out for it, thanks. May stop by the track today.

haven't handicapped yet, but there is a f/m named 'Crabcakes' who is 3/5 ml. Maybe she's unbeatable, but with a name like that she'll take some money on Million Day.

jay68802 · 10-21-2017, 12:40 PM

He can overcome the rail draw, leaves the

in the gate lets the

go in front and is able to move out as much as the

allows him to. The problem then is running down the

who draws outside and and gets a perfect trip.

Immortal6 · 10-21-2017, 12:50 PM

GL today Robert! Jay that is my hope. I'm hoping the weight difference between the

and

will be the difference maker if the 1 gets a good trip.

tophatmert · 10-21-2017, 12:51 PM

Don't know about the bias but am willing to play the

in the 2nd race with the

:

and w/p place. Might be running at the end and dry track races are ok.

Ruffian1 · 10-21-2017, 12:59 PM

Having spent my entire career there, the rail can be deadish this time of year because they typically start the winterizing of the track about now.

What that is , is spreading more cushion on the track as more will be needed in the winter months to offset freezing than is typically necessary when we are in the warmer months.

That will work its way down to the rail with harrowing.

But... watch a race or two as Saturdays are usually the strongest scrape days this time of year. By that I mean, the day that the grader moves the most dirt.

This is especially true on a day like today.

It would be a first from my days there if the rail on Million day was not at least even and typically strong.

Betting the inside going a mile and a 1/16th was automatic on days like today back in my day. Especially early in the card.

As a heads up moving forward, Friday will, become the heaviest scrape day in about a month due to light as well as earlier post times on Saturdays. And even more so if wet weather is coming in. (Cannot grade mud.)
Fridays are typically the day they grade the chute also. That can be big going 7/8ths or a mile.)

They used to move the most on Friday and follow up on Saturday with a maintenance scrape . But Fridays were free money sometimes. Just have to watch, or better yet, get there around 10:30 am and see for yourself. Just walk in like you own the place. Nobody will say anything unless you look like a dear in the headlights.

Hope that helps.

jay68802 · 10-21-2017, 01:12 PM

Second race seemed that all the horses that did their running on the inside stopped. One horse that was closing moved inside and flattened out.

Immortal6 · 10-21-2017, 01:21 PM

Ruffian thanks for the info, posts like yours are why I love being a part of this forum. Doubt I ever make it up to Maryland from Nebraska but if I do I'll definitely have to check out Laurel Park now.

jay68802 · 10-21-2017, 01:29 PM

let's find out
Laurel Race #3:

Pick 3:

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jay68802 · 10-21-2017, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Immortal6

Ruffian thanks for the info, posts like yours are why I love being a part of this forum. Doubt I ever make it up to Maryland from Nebraska but if I do I'll definitely have to check out Laurel Park now.

I'm in Minden right now waiting for the "restaurant" to open.

Immortal6 · 10-21-2017, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jay68802

I'm in Minden right now waiting for the "restaurant" to open.

Currently trying to handicap from an auger wagon south of Wood River haha!

So much for making this thread with the 1 and 5 others scratched.

FakeNameChanged · 10-21-2017, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruffian1

Having spent my entire career there, the rail can be deadish this time of year because they typically start the winterizing of the track about now.

What that is , is spreading more cushion on the track as more will be needed in the winter months to offset freezing than is typically necessary when we are in the warmer months.

That will work its way down to the rail with harrowing.

But... watch a race or two as Saturdays are usually the strongest scrape days this time of year. By that I mean, the day that the grader moves the most dirt.

This is especially true on a day like today.

It would be a first from my days there if the rail on Million day was not at least even and typically strong.

Betting the inside going a mile and a 1/16th was automatic on days like today back in my day. Especially early in the card.

As a heads up moving forward, Friday will, become the heaviest scrape day in about a month due to light as well as earlier post times on Saturdays. And even more so if wet weather is coming in. (Cannot grade mud.)
Fridays are typically the day they grade the chute also. That can be big going 7/8ths or a mile.)

They used to move the most on Friday and follow up on Saturday with a maintenance scrape . But Fridays were free money sometimes. Just have to watch, or better yet, get there around 10:30 am and see for yourself. Just walk in like you own the place. Nobody will say anything unless you look like a dear in the headlights.

Hope that helps.

Great Post! I remember the rail doing well at Lrl, but haven't charted it in a long time.

jay68802 · 10-21-2017, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Immortal6

Currently trying to handicap from an auger wagon south of Wood River haha!

So much for making this thread with the 1 and 5 others scratched.

Happen to know Tony Webster?

Tom · 10-21-2017, 02:16 PM

6 out of 13 scratch....what' up with Laurel?

Ruffian1 · 10-21-2017, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Whosonfirst

Great Post! I remember the rail doing well at Lrl, but haven't charted it in a long time.

Knowing the rail is nice is one thing but knowing WHY is quite another.

What I spoke to should hold true until March.

Glad to have shared what took me a career to learn.

One thing about a Laurel bias. There is always a reason.

Really hope it helps.

P.S.

To identify a scrape, look under the rail where hooves cannot go but the grader blade does on it's first pass through.

You will notice that is is freshly smoothed over with very little dirt laying on top. It is pretty much undisturbed and looks clean. That is where the blade starts when a scrape occurs.

By contrast, look at the same area under the rail in the chute.

That area looked quite disturbed but could only see a little of it. If so, they did not work the chute area as recently as they worked the track itself in all probability. Constant harrowing will eventually throw clods of dirt on an otherwise smooth surface telling you it is a scrape that probably did not occur that recently, therefore, less chance of a rail.

While I always was able to witness what was going on as 10:30 was work time, for those that cannot get out there or are watching on TV, check under the inner rail and document what you see when you are watching Laurel. See if it does or does not match up with your opinion of the strength of the rail on each card. Pretty sure you will be happy with the outcome.