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01-11-2018, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Again, the attitude that the government is entitled to the money, and decides out of the largess of the rulers to let people "keep" some of what they earned.
I don't know what "Make America Great Again" is supposed to mean.
I do know that the less of a company's money the government takes, the more jobs that company can create. Some of us have the quaint idea that a company using its money to create jobs is more productive and more valuable to society than the government redistributing that money according to the outcomes that it deems fit and proper.
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What you say has no meaning in real life. The government does not claim to be entitled to the money - Congress decides what tax revenue is needed and why. The government does not determine who gets assistance - Congress does.
Your child-like fixation on hating the concept of "government" is noted.
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01-11-2018, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
What you say has no meaning in real life. The government does not claim to be entitled to the money - Congress decides what tax revenue is needed and why. The government does not determine who gets assistance - Congress does.
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So in real life the government and Congress are independent entities?
Hint: In real life, Congress is a branch of government. They are not two different entities.
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01-11-2018, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
What you say has no meaning in real life. The government does not claim to be entitled to the money - Congress decides what tax revenue is needed and why. The government does not determine who gets assistance - Congress does.
Your child-like fixation on hating the concept of "government" is noted.
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Wow!!! What have you been smoking....I hope this was an attempt at a deflection.
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01-11-2018, 08:48 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Duh!
CONGRESS voted on the TAX CUTS.
So I guess the government will have to go along with it!
Stinky, be glad we have Danny, horsey and hcap here.
Just sayin'.....
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01-11-2018, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
WOW!!! What generosity!! A $1200 bonus is fifty eight cents an hour over one year. A $1000 bonus is forty eight cents an hour and the $1500 per worker that one of the banks is adding to the pension benefits, comes out to seventy three cents an hour. All of those are one time payouts.
As for the $3 an hour increase in the minimum wage; how many employees will that actually affect? I doubt that there are very many minimum wage workers at any bank; certainly not the tellers, not the accountants. not the folks working in the loan department or the mortgage department, not the personal bankers or those working with businesses. I suspect even the custodial staff is making well in excess of minimum wage.
So, except for a tiny percentage, the banks are raising the wages of no one.
In return for which, their tax rate is being reduced by 40%.
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The average salary for a bank teller as of Jan. 2018 is 27,825 per year. That's 13.38/hr. The range is 23K to 33k over 21,402 surveyed. Bank tellers are disappearing at an alarming rate even before the wage hikes.
https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/b...RCH_KO0,11.htm
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01-11-2018, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Whosonfirst
The average salary for a bank teller as of Jan. 2018 is 27,825 per year. That's 13.38/hr. The range is 23K to 33k over 21,402 surveyed. Bank tellers are disappearing at an alarming rate even before the wage hikes.
https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/b...RCH_KO0,11.htm
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That's because tellers are largely worthless and obsolete. Most banks are phasing them out. You could blame it on the Mexicans but it's mostly technology killing their jobs.
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01-11-2018, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
Duh!
CONGRESS voted on the TAX CUTS.
So I guess the government will have to go along with it!
Stinky, be glad we have Danny, horsey and hcap here.
Just sayin'.....
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And let's not forget: The NJs of this country who don't understand the three branches of government vote.
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01-11-2018, 11:32 AM
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#68
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Walmart
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01-11-2018, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
Company I work for just announced 15% wage bonus being paid out next week.
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Are you sure you heard this right?
I mean, I read every day on here from PA's resident 'republicans', 'conservatives' and numerous other lunatics about how bad and phony the Donald J. Trump Tax Bill of 2017 really, really is despite what dozens of companies are actually doing, and why they are doing it.
Glad to hear about the bonus.
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01-11-2018, 12:03 PM
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gelding
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Originally Posted by chadk66
Company I work for just announced 15% wage bonus being paid out next week.
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You said this last month:
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Originally Posted by chadk66
The company I work for has been giving out 15% bonuses for quite a few years now. This year, due to the tax bill, they are already talking it could be 20%.
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So the tax bill is so great that your company decided to... do the same thing they've been doing for years..
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01-11-2018, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
You said this last month:
So the tax bill is so great that your company decided to... do the same thing they've been doing for years..
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And under HRC his company would have probably moved to Mexico or China
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01-11-2018, 12:21 PM
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,883
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Originally Posted by upthecreek
And under HRC his company would have probably moved to Mexico or China
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Solid point.. 15% bonuses with Obama, move the company with HRC..
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01-11-2018, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Your child-like fixation on hating the concept of "government" is noted.
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I don't hate the concept of government. I am a strong believer in the concept of government as established in our Constitution.
I hate the perversion of government by small-minded bureaucrats and greedy politicians. They have created a monster that corrupts government and destroys freedom. And your beloved IRS is a mindless tool of that monster.
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01-11-2018, 12:51 PM
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by Clocker
I hate the perversion of government by small-minded bureaucrats and greedy politicians. They have created a monster that corrupts government and destroys freedom. And your beloved IRS is a mindless tool of that monster.
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Government is a tool of the people. The people have allowed the monster to grow and to be perverted by small-minded bureaucrats and greedy politicians.
Is not, "we get the government we deserve", one of your favorite sayings?
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01-11-2018, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
I don't hate the concept of government. I am a strong believer in the concept of government as established in our Constitution.
I hate the perversion of government by small-minded bureaucrats and greedy politicians. They have created a monster that corrupts government and destroys freedom. And your beloved IRS is a mindless tool of that monster.
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Right now, the IRS isn't feelin' the love from blue states. Governors are planning and scheming how to circumvent the 10k cap deduction of state taxes.
Very strange action for liberals to be takin' since they have heretofore they have never seen a tax hike they didn't like or a loophole they didn't hate. Yet...they're now trying to do a 180 degree turnabout from these to circumvent the new tax law. Their hypocrisy is so thick, my chain saw probably couldn't cut through it.
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