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12-27-2017, 10:50 AM
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"So when the contractor comes to work on your roof, risking life and limb, you should pay for his insurance?"
You are. The contractor factors in their costs to the price charged to the customer. The customer just doesn't see it.
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I just rented an SUV for our GP trip next month, the weekly rate was $529 add the additional fees added another $200 every business puts in their costs if they didn't they would be out of business.
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12-27-2017, 10:58 AM
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One side will cave, and everything will get back to normal. That's how these things usually work out.
Don't sweat it...
And if we miss a few days of racing in the dead of winter because of it, no big deal.
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I concur.
What I find amusing is when a major track cancels due to weather or track conditions, invariably there is a thread on here discussing the apocalypse .
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12-27-2017, 11:33 AM
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I just rented an SUV for our GP trip next month, the weekly rate was $529 add the additional fees added another $200 every business puts in their costs if they didn't they would be out of business.
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BINGO!!!
Oh, I am a frequent renter of cars.
If you don;t mind discussing, what were the additional fees for?
Was it airport and state taxes?
$520 for a week in an SUV looks very expensive.
Ok...My fault. Looks like you go t a good price.
Never mind..
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12-27-2017, 01:05 PM
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BINGO!!!
Oh, I am a frequent renter of cars.
If you don;t mind discussing, what were the additional fees for?
Was it airport and state taxes?
$520 for a week in an SUV looks very expensive.
Ok...My fault. Looks like you go t a good price.
Never mind..
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Here are the fees:
Parking Surcharge
Customer Facility Charge
Concession Recovery Fee
Sales tax
Vehicle License Recovery
I went through Enterprise at Fort Lauderdale Airport. They seem to be a bit above the rest of the rental companies. I got a Ford Expedition. Last year the Diplomat Hotel tried to charge us $40 a day for an over sized vehicle for Valet.
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12-27-2017, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by thespaah
"So when the contractor comes to work on your roof, risking life and limb, you should pay for his insurance?"
You are. The contractor factors in their costs to the price charged to the customer. The customer just doesn't see it.
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I know. That was my point. It is part of the contractor's expenses that they should collect from whom hires them. You don't get handed an insurance bill from your contractor to pay, nor does a third-party that isn't hiring a contractor pay it (normally). This would all make more sense if they said they need to increase the jockey fees to cover their expenses.
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12-27-2017, 04:55 PM
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Jockeys are self-employed. I've no idea why they expect the tracks or owners or anyone else to pay for their insurance.
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They have a union, which they pay dues to collectively bargain for them and get the best deal they can for their members, why is that so hard for you to understand.
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12-27-2017, 05:34 PM
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They have a union, which they pay dues to collectively bargain for them and get the best deal they can for their members, why is that so hard for you to understand.
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Is this really that complicated? Congrats to them getting the tracks, who aren't their employers, nor entities they are contracted with, to pay their health insurance. As I previously stated, it's a bizarre arrangement that makes zero sense unless it's a deal worked to offset the track's liability coverage expense, and then I'd expect the tracks to not give more than the difference between the liability cost with signed releases and without signed releases.
The Jockeys' Guild would do better to explain if that's the case rather than act like an injured party that we're all supposed to be sympathetic towards.
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12-27-2017, 06:00 PM
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Dog, meet bone.
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12-27-2017, 06:17 PM
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Dog, meet bone.
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Why open the thread, much less post, if you're not interested?
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01-08-2018, 09:33 AM
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Looks like the work stoppage did happen after all.
But due to cold weather.
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01-08-2018, 10:50 AM
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The insurance fee paid by owners is staying at $1800 for the new year. This includes all NYRA tracks so if you run at Aqueduct you pay only once and you can run at Belmont, Saratoga or Finger Lakes. No matter if you run once or 20 times the fee is $1800.
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01-08-2018, 10:59 AM
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The insurance fee paid by owners is staying at $1800 for the new year. This includes all NYRA tracks so if you run at Aqueduct you pay only once and you can run at Belmont, Saratoga or Finger Lakes. No matter if you run once or 20 times the fee is $1800.
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Is it really that difficult for them to split it in a fairer manner like prorata?
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01-08-2018, 02:17 PM
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Is it really that difficult for them to split it in a fairer manner like prorata?
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They do, in December if you hadn't raced in NY previously it is $250 a start...then goes to $1800 in January through November for the whole year.
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01-08-2018, 02:35 PM
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They do, in December if you hadn't raced in NY previously it is $250 a start...then goes to $1800 in January through November for the whole year.
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Not exactly prorata, just a break to those getting in a single start at the end of the year for $250 instead of $1,800.
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