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Old 12-24-2016, 09:56 PM   #1246
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This is all very new to me, don't know the answers to those kinds of questions yet.

I should say I can answer the "friends" question. We are under the DRF umbrella now. It was the other one I can't answer.
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Old 12-24-2016, 10:25 PM   #1247
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You have my prayers - DRF is totally incompetent.
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Old 12-25-2016, 02:44 AM   #1248
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Nice - I pray formulator incorporates the figs and the pace projector. So tired of clicking back and forth between tabs
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Old 12-25-2016, 09:47 AM   #1249
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This is all very new to me, don't know the answers to those kinds of questions yet.

I should say I can answer the "friends" question. We are under the DRF umbrella now. It was the other one I can't answer.
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Congrats!!! We're all happy for you.


I'll use Promo Code "PACREW" on my next order, we'll see what happens.
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Old 12-25-2016, 09:38 PM   #1250
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How does this spotlight number work? I'm looking at the Malibu and the # get's the 124 from it's last race at 6 furlongs and not the 3rd race back at 7 furlongs and the # get's the 7 furlong race from 3 back and not the 6 furlong last race.
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Old 12-26-2016, 12:12 AM   #1251
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How does this spotlight number work? I'm looking at the Malibu and the # get's the 124 from it's last race at 6 furlongs and not the 3rd race back at 7 furlongs and the # get's the 7 furlong race from 3 back and not the 6 furlong last race.
The four main things that go into figuring out the Spotlight Figure are distance, surface, and days since the race and finish position. Each race gets a score on a 0-100 scale that judges how close it approximates the conditions of today's race. The race with the highest score is the Spotlight.

We have some changes coming soon, actually in QA right now, and the preview pages for the Malibu looks like you see below. The old is on the left, the new on the right and it changes the 9 to a better race. The rest remain the same. The difference is that instead of using the highest score on the 0-100 scale, we look at all that score at least a 70 and from the those the fastest TFUS Speed Figure is the Spotlight Figure. We are also scrapping finish position as part of the equation.

So for example, currently the 9 might have something like this:

Last race: score 90, TFUS 118
Two back: score 80, TFUS 108
Three back: score 95, TFUS 111

The third back is scored highest so 111 is the Spotlight Figure in the current PPs. With the soon to come new design, all three scores are higher than 70 so all would qualify, and we will select the last race figure of 118. If no races qualify we just pick the highest one, but I hope to indicate this somehow as a figure we don't really like.

Hope that makes sense. Don't want to get too technical. Just a few examples of races that obviously wouldn't qualify would be if today is a mile and a sixteenth on turf and the race in question was 6f on dirt.

I'll close with this...it is VERY difficult to pick one number to represent a horses ability. No matter what method you choose, there will be a few head scratchers. I use it as a baseline to judge a horse against itself more than against the rest of the field.

(NOTE: I think we actually look at the last five races, not just the last three, but wanted to keep it simple here)

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Old 12-26-2016, 12:33 AM   #1252
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I was just tying to understand how it worked because it wasn't making much sense to me. Coniah in the La Brea has numbers of 110,111,101,110,117 in her last 5 and yet the 101 is the spotlight number. I guess because that's the race she won although the 111 is at the same distance.
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Old 12-26-2016, 02:29 PM   #1253
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I was just tying to understand how it worked because it wasn't making much sense to me. Coniah in the La Brea has numbers of 110,111,101,110,117 in her last 5 and yet the 101 is the spotlight number. I guess because that's the race she won although the 111 is at the same distance.

Yes, and she is example 101 of why the finish position is being eliminated.
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Old 12-26-2016, 03:18 PM   #1254
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Thanks guys. I'm very happy.
I'm really happy for you!! This is outstanding....

A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year for sure!
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:31 AM   #1255
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So timeform and drf are partnering now?

Guess I'll find out more at 11

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Old 01-05-2017, 12:07 PM   #1256
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Just finished a webinar on the TimeformUS PPs, will post a link when available.
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Old 01-05-2017, 03:16 PM   #1257
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Nice

job cj. Gee when i closed my eyes i thought it was Tom Brady speaking. LOL


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Old 01-05-2017, 03:35 PM   #1258
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:07 PM   #1259
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Thanks, was just about to post that! I'll make it embedded below.

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Old 01-07-2017, 06:07 PM   #1260
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CJ,

What is the long term vision for this partnership with DRF? While TFUS is a dependable mobile solution, DRF still has work to do in that department. Will this relationship introduce gradual changes to the regular DRF product over time to make it more modern and mobile device friendly? Also, is this partnership designed to slowly provide DRF customers an introduction to the TFUS figures, with an eye on perhaps replacing Beyers completely a few years down the line?
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