2015 Poker Discussion Thread

[dirty moose]

I can't dis agree with either of you guys. But I don't play that often and $3k is a lot of money to me. The blindswere very high and a ddouble up of one of the short stacks would have brought us very close.

First paid $5400 and 2nd was $2900 so the only better I can do at that time is first place money. So I guess you can call it fear. I guess we could have eliminated one or both the short stacks and made a deal?? But like I said, I one double up of the short guys would make them a real threat.

[dirty moose]

Although I don't play with fear. So maybe it's not fear.
I'm not a pro but I don't play just for recreation. I enjoy the shit out of poker but my main reason for playing is to make money.

[tucker6]

Dirty Moose,

I certainly cannot judge you in the situation you found yourself. The circumstances of a deal are always unique to the occasion, the person, and your history. That said, when I read your post early this morning, the first thing I thought was that you probably don't win $3k every day at the tables, and were willing to sacrifice a larger payday to get into the win column. Sounds about what you did. Cheers on the win.

[dirty moose]

That's for sure. There was a time when I played poker to supplement my income. Those days are gone. I took a shot (2 years shot) at the horses and failed miserably. I recently decided to play more poker even tho it's much less convenient. Going to play a couple more events this month and some limit poker cash games.

[Red Knave]

Originally Posted by dirty moose

First paid $5400 and 2nd was $2900 so the only better I can do at that time is first place money

That's a big gap from 1st to 2nd. Often 2nd pays 2/3 or more of the win. How many players were there?
I'll guess that 3rd was about $2k so the chop makes sense to me.

[dilanesp]

Originally Posted by tucker6

"not long into the contest I get dealt (you guessed it) KK and raise a few limpers to $16 ($41 behind). there are three out of position calls and we see a flop of J93.

donkey #1 leads out for $25 with 43 OFF.
donkey #2 calls with "a draw."
magic city calls with J7.

I shove the $41 and everyone calls.

turn:3. river: x. "

To me, this was a perfect hand to have had more chips in front of you and shoved move into the pot. I bet you might have lost at least 2 of the 3 donkeys with such a bet. Maybe all of them. Many times when I read your stories I have similar thoughts to this. "If only he had a larger stack in front of him". I know, risk/reward...

In a limit game you should always have at least 12 big bets in front of you, and should rebuy as necessary.

In a no limit, you should rebuy whenever you are short and you are allowed to by the casino, unless you are specifically playing a short stack strategy.

Don't be results oriented. It doesn't matter that they will call and hit their stupid draws. If you are a better player than they are, you want to be able to win as much as possible when you stack off with them. The fact that you will sometimes get killed by variance is irrelevant.

[no breathalyzer]

Originally Posted by ManU918

No reason one can ever justify a chop in this scenario. Not even an ICM chop makes sense. This was a gigantic mistake on both of the chip leaders parts.

There is no reason at all to play tournament poker (where the really good players only cash in 15% of the tournaments they play in) if you're going to get 4-handed with a large percentage of the chips and agree to even chops. When given these opportunities you have to maximize your profits.

maybe they all were just nice guys

[proximity]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

The fact that you will sometimes get killed by variance is irrelevant.

sometimes?

[ManU918]

Drove down to the Borgata today to play in the $500+$60 survivor... It was an unsuccessful trip... I'll get into the hand that crippled me but hopefully i'll be reporting back something positive soon as I'm heading back down tomorrow for the $300 ($100K Guarantee).

Blinds: 75/150
Stack $22,500 (From a $20,000 Starting Stack)
Hand: KsKc
Position UTG
Table Image: Tight aggressive

I raise to $550... folds around to a lose cannon in MP who calls... Folds to BB who throws in 4 black chips to make the call...

Flop comes Qc-8h-6h

I put in $1050... Cannon insta-calls... Gets to BB and after about 45 seconds he puts in $3200... After thinking about it I called. BB's range is so wide here. He could literally be raising with anything.. Any queen, Flush/Straight draw combos, set, air, etc. Cannon gives the good ole well I'm already in for $1050 what the hell is another $2050. When he did this I instantly put him on 10-Q, Q-J or at the absolute best K-Q.

Turn is 8d

Not the worst card for me until.... BB goes all-in for a lot. He definitely doesn't have AA because he would of re-popped me pre. So I narrow it down to 66, Ace high flush draw (possibly with the queen) or the open ender (straight flush draw). If he has 66 I have 9% equity, A-Q hearts 70% equity, 5-7 hearts 68% equity. Again at this point I'm not worried at all about the guy in MP. After I thought about it I decided to call...MP folds J-Q face-up LOL.... BB turns over 66.... River bricked...GG... Back tomorrow.

[proximity]

Originally Posted by ManU918

Hand: KsKc

better luck tomorrow.

[proximity]

ended august with a pre-Timonium loss at horseshoe Baltimore.

just a couple hands into the game I flopped trip aces with A7 suited from late position.

the flop came out AAJ (two clubs) and I raised an early position bettor.

however, a ten falls on the turn to complete a three out gutshot for the donkey (yes, KQ off) and I never recover in an $87 loss.

my next session was pretty much the same: $55 card dead loss at horseshoe.

there was one memorable hand from the game though. a player before me raised with KK and I folded 43 off. the shuffler was kind of sunken into the table though and when I folded the 4 actually got stuck vertically in the shuffler. everyone could see it, and the dealer announced it but it didn't stop another player from calling the raise with 44 anyhow.

naturally the case four falls right on the flop but the guy never raises. vintage horseshoe!!

that loss put me down $660 for the year and only one game over 500 in the win-loss column. however, yesterday I would comeback with a $270 win in my best game of the year!!

so there's still hope for a winning year!!

year -390 (30-28)

[proximity]

after a nice win last time out gets us (kinda, sorta) back in contention for a winning year we return to the beautiful horseshoe Baltimore for another 3/6 limit hold 'em test.

today's game starts kinda slow. we're an hour in and I haven't won a hand.

but suddenly there's great concern. and not for my declining bankroll.

a woman doesn't want anyone to leave the table because 2014 proximity poker tour LEGEND aunt hortense is circling the table and her name is approaching the top of the waiting list.

I think to myself that this woman must be joking.

I mean who wouldn't want to play one of the worst players in limit hold 'em HISTORY??

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...&postcount=448

but the lady isn't joking. and in fact, five minutes later she's at it again....this time wondering if aunt hortense is ..... get this.... A PROFESSIONAL GAMBLER!!

sure enough, despite this woman's objections a seat opens up.

and when it does the guy on my immediate right moves half way across the table to the open seat where the dealer lets him post his small blind.

THIS MEAN AUNT HORTENSE IS GOING TO BE ON MY IMMEDIATE RIGHT!!!

but wait a second.

after the hand (and before aunt hortense can sit down) his new neighbor (to his right, not even his left) convinces the man to move back to his previous seat.

really, this is ridiculous if you think about it. you can move to a better position and post your small blind and then move back to be the button after the hand?

absurd, but karma acts quickly as aunt hortense takes her seat across the table and in one of her very first hands cracks the guy's aces with 2-5 off suit in a capped pot pre-flop!!

eventually I get on the board myself when I turn an ace high flush to win a big pot and later I quietly make a seat change of my own. towards the end I send aunt hortense packing with 66 before an eleventh hour loss with KK to an all-in straddle reminds me of my place in the universe.

game +112 (3/6)
year -278 (31-28)

[dirty moose]

An up date. I went back the week after chipping for $3 and pretty much gave it all back.

I played a $400 buy in $100k guaranteed. I played the worst hour of poker and was out b4 the hour was up. That was all the poker for the day. I flopped back and forth at the pit games and ended up a couple hondo.

The next day rolled around and it was a disaster. I lost a bunch in the pit games but I played 10/20 limit and dropped close to a grand. I ran really bad but played just as bad.

That's all I'll say about it lol.

Heading back to AC Next week to play that Friday morning tournament. Hopefully it goes as well as it did last time.

[proximity]

Originally Posted by dirty moose

Heading back to AC Next week to play that Friday morning tournament. Hopefully it goes as well as it did last time.

i'm about 25% to go this week. will probably hold off until later in October though?

good luck down there dm!!

[proximity]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1692

really?

a seven stars member?

the host didn't intervene?????