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Old 05-23-2015, 08:00 AM   #16
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You can resurrect Joe McCarthy and Mussolini for all I care. An ultra-conservative has no shot at the White House.

Go ahead, punk, make my day...........
I understand the reason for the simpletons on the left to try to either rewrite history or ignore it totally, but the truth always has a way of ferreting out what's real and what's typical liberal dogma.

Well besides being the godfather to one of Robert Kennedy's children, Kathleen, Joe McCarthy was correct in many of his allegations that there was Communist Party influence in the US State Department and throughout our government.

He got hammered primarily because he was too lax with the numbers and because he had a couple of homosexual advisors, including Roy Cohn, on his staff. He was a true patriot and war hero, unlike most of his detractors.

Benito Mussolini was a far left liberal socialist creep and despot, no different than Hitler, FDR and Barack Obama, so any and all resurrection will probably be done by left wing fools such as yourself.
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Good Post Reckless.........

Old Joe was proven right over time
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:25 AM   #18
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Good Post Reckless.........

Old Joe was proven right over time
Pelosi and Reid come to mind.
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(4) We needed to smash some Muslim strongman after the 9/11 attack, and Saddam was as good as any other"

It was exactly this one, a simple response from the House of Shrub, to bolster confidence in America's ability to retaliate, using the WMD ginned up ruse as justification.

The critical key to carrying this out, as the terrible results have shown, was just WTF do you do, once you've taken this 'strongman' out? Neither Bush, nor anyone else at The WH, gave one whit of thought to not supplying the red meat go get em, base with their prize. As a result, we are, where we are. The wrong target, the wrong tactics, the wrong invasion, the wrong plan!

As for that hectoring shrew Coulter, can she conceive of crayoning her putrid pablum for the Neanderthals, without always offending those who can't fight back?

What an asshole!
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Old Joe was proven right over time
That's pretty funny.

You guys have absolutely no shame.....or integrity.
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That's pretty funny.

You guys have absolutely no shame.....or integrity.
Integrity? From a guy who backs a party that elects child molesters and criminals?
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From today's National Post, contrary to Shrew Ann...


Everything seemed to be going right for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in the spring of 2003. Baghdad had fallen. Saddam Hussein was on the run. The Iraqi army had surrendered. Former U.S. president George W. Bush went on live television, declaring the Iraq war a victory while standing in front of a banner that read “Mission Accomplished.”

On May 11, Paul Bremer was named head of the Coalition Provisional Authority, the body created to serve as a transitional government for Iraq. His first order of business called for the de-Baathification of the new government: anyone associated with Saddam’s political party was to be removed from their post and banned from ever serving again. The second order, issued on May 23, dissolved the Iraqi military and intelligence services.

An American senior coalition official at the time told CNN the order to stand down the army was “part of a robust campaign to show the Iraqi people that the Saddam regime is gone and will never return.”

The reality turned out to be far more complicated. The order, which many blamed for the violent insurgency that followed, quickly became one of the most disputed decisions of the U.S. postwar occupation. Now, 12 years later, there are signs the decision continues to haunt U.S. efforts in Iraq, with increasing evidence former members of Saddam’s military have helped fuel the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq & the Levant (also known as ISIL, ISIS and the Islamic State).

Although a majority of ISIL’s foot soldiers has been recruited from around the world, reports and personal accounts suggest its leaders are predominantly Iraqis, many of whom were affected by the 2003 dissolution of the Iraqi Armed Forces.

“ISIL, as an organization, would not exist without former Baathists,” says Iraq analyst Sajad Jiyad, a senior researcher at the al-Bayan Center for Studies & Planning in Baghdad.

He estimates more than 25 of ISIL’s most prominent 40 leaders in the last two years were previously Baathists. "The people in charge of military operations in (ISIL) were the best officers in the former Iraqi army, and that is why (ISIL) beats us in intelligence and on the battlefield."
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Integrity? From a guy who backs a party that elects child molesters and criminals?
Yeah, he really needs to get on the RIGHT side, where all the politicians and representatives are as pure as freshly fallen snow..

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Yeah, he really needs to get on the RIGHT side, where all the politicians and representatives are as pure as freshly fallen snow..

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=389x1709387
very few re-elected. In fact at the national level I cannot remember any.

Im' sure you will find one.

There are two different standards............Repubs go away quietly.........

The fact that you posted from that board........speaks volumes about you

You don't see me posting freeper links..........
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You don't see me posting freeper links....
That would be a step up from giving pats on the back to people who say that Mussolini and Hitler are no different than FDR and Obama.
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At the time of the Iraqi invasion, I had very mixed feelings. I think most people did, including democrats in government. It was obvious that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, but it was also obvious he was threat in the region and had previously showed a willingness to use chemical weapons. So there was some risk he might still have them and supply them to terrorists given his relationship with the US was terrible. That was the mood at that time. Everyone was a little frightened.

The decision was not a no brainer at the time even if it looks like one now or the standards of your own political philosophy on war were not met at that time (as was the case with me).

The bottom line is that the current president has been in office for over 6 years and EVERYTHING is WAY WORSE in that region than when he took over. That's not Bush's fault. Even if you originally thought the invasion was a mistake or came around to that point of view later as the results came in, you can't deny that Obama has been wildly incompetent and naive. The current mess is on HIM. End of story.
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Good Post Reckless.........

Old Joe was proven right over time
Joseph McCarthy, a Republican Senator, bordered on being insane, with strong drippings of paranoia poisoning his mind.
Yes, he championed American Capitalism and Patriotism, and while his approach flushed out a few communist sympathizers, his shot gun approach sprayed many others.
He was a witch hunter, seeing commies under every stone.
Most of his allegations were proven false over time, but in the meanwhile he damaged a number of innocent Americans.
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Joseph McCarthy, a Republican Senator, bordered on being insane, with strong drippings of paranoia poisoning his mind.
Yes, he championed American Capitalism and Patriotism, and while his approach flushed out a few communist sympathizers, his shot gun approach sprayed many others.
He was a witch hunter, seeing commies under every stone.
Most of his allegations were proven false over time, but in the meanwhile he damaged a number of innocent Americans.
he was right, no matter how crazy he was.

It has been proven. Today, he would still be right.
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Old 05-23-2015, 01:29 PM   #29
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That would be a step up from giving pats on the back to people who say that Mussolini and Hitler are no different than FDR and Obama.
FanDan, I suggest you read up on some 20th century history and politics -- either US or European history and politics.

For now, I'll save you some effort -- Mussolini and Hitler were far left wing socialist despots. And, both FDR and Obama were no different than those two creeps except they had an equally radical main stream press promoting and defending our two despots.

Per Joe McCarthy, it was these same slugs in the media that went after him but ignored Stalin's gulag, Hitler's concentration camps and FDR's internment policy against Japanese-American US citizens! I don't need to remind you about the crimes committed by Obama that the media ignores and defends, do I?

It's the same anti-America media that defended Communists in our own government when they defended the following well-known traitors: Alger Hiss, Owen Lattimore and the Rosenbergs (of nuclear secrets infamy), to name just a few.

I'll defend the character of a Joe McCarthy every day of the week, especially against those that promote such horrible left wingers such as Obama, Stalin, FDR, Mussolini and Hitler and today's Islamo terrorists, of course.
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The double standard in the press is laughably obvious.

If you flat out declare yourself a socialist or communist the press will not only defend your right to those beliefs, they'll champion many of your views. If you say you believe in the constitution and want to roll back some of the things that are clearly outside the intent of the founders you will be crucified relentlessly and classified as a dangerous extremist.

It comical. The entire country has been twisted on its head by the left.

Everything that was good is now bad and everything that was bad is now good, which of course is why we are sinking into an abyss socially, economically, and morally.
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