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Old 05-17-2015, 11:28 AM   #91
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That guy is a total terror.

I started when 14.1 was the big game.

I've seen just about every great 14.1 pool player other than Mike Euphemia, Arthur Cranfield, and Ralph Greenleaf.

I saw Mike Sigel, Nick Varner, Ray Martin, Allen Hopkins, Gene Nagy, Dallas West, Jack Colavito, and Steve Mizerak many times while at their best. I saw Irving Crane, Luther Lassiter, and Willie Mosconi play when they were still great but a bit past their peak. I've seen all the current players.

I watched Darren Appleton play 14.1 in a tournament in Astoria Queens (via computer). I think it was last year, but it might have been the year before. He was absolutely incredible. It was some of the best straight pool I have ever witnessed. I've seen him play some 9 ball too and he's great at that too.

Great choice. You have to be underrated when you are God-like and no one other than pool degenerates ever heard of you.


I have been a pool degenerate all my life...and Appleton is the only pool player who leaves me with my mouth open in amazement. Even his safeties are a work of art.
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Old 05-17-2015, 12:15 PM   #92
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Larry's left jab was second to none. Got up from some devastating knockdowns (Shavers, Snipes) only to win fight. Held title several years.
A much tougher fighter than most gave him credit for.
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Old 05-17-2015, 01:23 PM   #93
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I have been a pool degenerate all my life...and Appleton is the only pool player who leaves me with my mouth open in amazement. Even his safeties are a work of art.
I didn't realize Appleton also played straight pool. His stock just went up in my book.

This might be tough for a Greek but check out Semih Sayginer.
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Old 05-17-2015, 01:38 PM   #94
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TOO funny...

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I didn't realize Appleton also played straight pool. His stock just went up in my book.

This might be tough for a Greek but check out Semih Sayginer.
I saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwRMiSEYUt4 about a month ago...and I was shocked by this guy's skill. I meant to post the video here in a prior post...but I couldn't remember the player's name.
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Old 05-17-2015, 01:45 PM   #95
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Belichick said he's great, you said he's not top 100, i have a hunch he's in Bill's top 100, but that's just a wild guess.
I have a hunch Bill is biased. Let me know when he gets in.
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Comparing him the rest of the players in that era he was in a class by himself. An example. in 1920 he hit 54 home runs the closest guy to that hit 19.
He had 2 seasons when he hit more home runs than any other American League TEAM.
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Just brought up Yogi Berra in the baseball thread. Given his teammates he is often forgotten but look at his records. You like championships? 14 times in the World Series, 10 wins, more than any other player. Personal awards? Three time league MVP and twice second. 15 All Star games. Not only played catcher but also played the outfield fairly regularly. Stengel's favorite player.

And most just remember him for the funny things he didn't really say, unless he did.
I shit you not, I was just going to name him. Holds more World Series records than any other batter. I'm a hard core baseball fan. Good call.
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Another is Lou Gehrig. Over shadowed by Ruth, then DiMaggio, he was truly the heart and soul of his Yankee teams. In discussions, he rarely stands alone, always mentioned as a member of this great Yankee team or that great Yankee team, but he was arguably every bit the baseball player either of the two mentioned above were. A true all time great. And an outstanding college pitcher.
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I have a hunch Bill is biased. Let me know when he gets in.
If there's anyone in sports who doesn't blow smoke up people's butts just because he's biased is that guy. Belichick isn't going to say those things about Bavaro if they weren't true, maybe other guys, but not him.
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A more modern version...who, although largely unknown, is considered a living legend by those who are aware of his standing in his sport.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiannis_Kouros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7UzmKxe3Xk
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Another is Lou Gehrig. Over shadowed by Ruth, then DiMaggio, he was truly the heart and soul of his Yankee teams. In discussions, he rarely stands alone, always mentioned as a member of this great Yankee team or that great Yankee team, but he was arguably every bit the baseball player either of the two mentioned above were. A true all time great. And an outstanding college pitcher.
Agreed, today is the 76th anniversary of his Luckiest Man Alive speech. The guy played every day for about 17 years, was a great player and by all accounts a great man. The "Iron Horse"....is a legend but is often a forgotten one

http://bronxpinstripes.com/beyond-ba...istory-1939-2/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oW1RuGqw7g

The Pride of the Yankees, Gary Cooper 1942, great movie.
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Can't remember if I posted this link about Jack Trice before in this thread, but here it is again -- an amazing athletic story:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Trice
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Another is Lou Gehrig. Over shadowed by Ruth, then DiMaggio, he was truly the heart and soul of his Yankee teams. In discussions, he rarely stands alone, always mentioned as a member of this great Yankee team or that great Yankee team, but he was arguably every bit the baseball player either of the two mentioned above were. A true all time great. And an outstanding college pitcher.
Gehrig is considered one of the 10 greatest players of all time, so I'm not sure if that qualifies as underrated. I wouldn't put him above Ruth or Mays but after that, one can almost pick numbers for who was 3-10.
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Gehrig played in the shadow of Ruth, so history hasn't served him due justice.
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