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01-10-2017, 07:58 PM
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BuzzFeed releases damaging info on Trump/Russia relationship
Obviously, I have no idea if any of this is true. Unlike the wikileaks emails that are clearly legitimate, these documents and reports by US intelligence are assertions without evidence. But they are pretty damning if true.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinge...JXa#.fjzqjly2o
From CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politi...sia/index.html
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01-10-2017, 08:06 PM
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Was hoping no one would bother.
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01-10-2017, 08:15 PM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
Was hoping no one would bother.
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Me too.......
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01-10-2017, 08:22 PM
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Don't worry guys. The reports list the ALFA GROUP as "Alpha Group", so...how much credence could we place on their accuracy?
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01-10-2017, 08:25 PM
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More bull$ to have to deal with!
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01-10-2017, 08:26 PM
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includes specific, unverified, and potentially unverifiable allegations
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Everything you need to know... right there.
Can file this under "Fake News".
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01-10-2017, 08:28 PM
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These freaking Russians only tell the truth about HILLARY.
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01-10-2017, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
These freaking Russians only tell the truth about HILLARY.
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Do not be surprised if all of the e-mails and DNC hacks originated in NYC and got posted to the dark web. Roger Stone tells the FBI and others Russians hacked the DNC and everybody runs with the story.
Rule #1.) Never believe Roger Stone, it is just like believing James Carville.
Rule #2.) Never make your password = password
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01-10-2017, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
But they are pretty damning if true.
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The super operative term is "if", right?
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01-10-2017, 09:01 PM
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Here's my complaint about the media.
There are Wikileaks documents that make it quite clear how corrupt the DNC is, that HRC was taking money from foreign governments and individuals, that there were almost certainly pay for play deals among them, that much of the media was in bed with the HRC campaign planting friendly misleading articles, that they gave her the questions before the debate etc...
There is circumstantial evidence in the Podesta emails of horrible crimes that I prefer not to speak about. When I researched the topic carefully, I concluded that only an idiot would not come to the same conclusion I did even though there's probably a lot of false speculation out there also.
None of these emails are disputed. They are all legit.
Yet much of this was buried, dismissed as fake news, discussed briefly then set aside, or attacked because of the source.
These Trump documents are an assertion with absolutely no proof given.
Yet the media is all over it like white on rice.
This is why I consider the media an enemy. They have a responsibility to report facts. They should not be taking sides. The problem is that once I understand they are biased and will withhold important information, spin information etc... I can no longer trust anything they say.
I don't have unlimited time to research an issue so I can know the full story and details that were never discussed.
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Last edited by classhandicapper; 01-10-2017 at 09:06 PM.
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01-10-2017, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
Was hoping no one would bother.
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Sorry, but I have a reputation to uphold as calling them as I see them.
This is all over CNN and Twitter right now. I don't know what to think yet, but CNN is reporting that a 2 page summary was given to Trump last week by US intelligence.
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01-10-2017, 09:07 PM
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Slope Handicapping ™
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
These freaking Russians only tell the truth about HILLARY.
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Yup, I KNEW she had to be in to golden showers. But this still doesn't explain why Chelsea is so ugly.
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01-11-2017, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
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oh I believe all of it Trump with women in Russia. yeah I believe it. They got a tape. I hope there's more than one tape.
2 MI-6 guys, a former UK Ambassador to Russia are sources and Carl
Bernstein on it. Much of it I knew about months ago. Did not know Larov was involved.
In Russia this is an opportunity to take Putin down. like in the movies, People start dying. Jason Bourne "I want that tape"
and yet another example of terrible American "news" media. we have 2-3 newspapers and a bunch of know nothing TV news shows.
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01-11-2017, 06:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Here's my complaint about the media.
There are Wikileaks documents that make it quite clear how corrupt the DNC is, that HRC was taking money from foreign governments and individuals, that there were almost certainly pay for play deals among them, that much of the media was in bed with the HRC campaign planting friendly misleading articles, that they gave her the questions before the debate etc...
There is circumstantial evidence in the Podesta emails of horrible crimes that I prefer not to speak about. When I researched the topic carefully, I concluded that only an idiot would not come to the same conclusion I did even though there's probably a lot of false speculation out there also.
None of these emails are disputed. They are all legit.
Yet much of this was buried, dismissed as fake news, discussed briefly then set aside, or attacked because of the source.
These Trump documents are an assertion with absolutely no proof given.
Yet the media is all over it like white on rice.
This is why I consider the media an enemy. They have a responsibility to report facts. They should not be taking sides. The problem is that once I understand they are biased and will withhold important information, spin information etc... I can no longer trust anything they say.
I don't have unlimited time to research an issue so I can know the full story and details that were never discussed.
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I don't have unlimited time to research an issue so I can know the full story
which untainted news sources in US could you possibly research? Fox News
when the DNC hacks came out, one reporter went to CNN to dispute an e-mail because he said "I wrote that in an article not the DNC staffer in question".
FILE COMPARE is the only proof to verify the e-mails well who did that?
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01-11-2017, 06:12 AM
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Believe it or not
Why take a chance? F them , apply IRAN-type sanctions and sink them. Putin removed. yeah COLD WAR. we did pretty good in the cold war.
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