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Old 01-11-2021, 08:55 PM   #1
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ACLU breaks out

Was waiting to hear from them.

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Just may surprise a few here.
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Good for the ACLU. a smidge of common sense consistency goes a long way
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:25 PM   #4
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Good for the ACLU. a smidge of common sense consistency goes a long way
i don't think those company's should have shut down parlor or any other of those platforms even though people get brainwashed on them. but who i am to say that my way is the right way..

the way i see it, its just another step to take more of our rights away from us and have government take full control of our lives.
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Old 01-12-2021, 01:08 AM   #5
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Kate Ruane, a senior legislative counsel at the American Civil Liberties Union said in a statement that this illustration of Big Tech’s unchecked power should be a sobering lesson, even for Trump-haters.
SHe's not talking about rights, she's mentioning where this could lead to!

A liberal who's concerned for all? What's next
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Old 01-12-2021, 06:03 AM   #6
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instead of closing parlor up they should be opening up about another 100 of them. make it easier to post their conspiracy theories and threaten every one.
don't stop them with just the capitol building. let them take over what they want. if they try to cross the street and go to another corner there will always be someone there to greet them.

that's the way i grew up, just try crossing the street and try to take over the other groups corner and see what happens. i am not the only one that grew up in this era!

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They should let them takeover whole sections of a city like in the summer.
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Old 01-12-2021, 05:43 PM   #8
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instead of closing parlor up they should be opening up about another 100 of them. make it easier to post their conspiracy theories and threaten every one.
don't stop them with just the capitol building. let them take over what they want. if they try to cross the street and go to another corner there will always be someone there to greet them.

that's the way i grew up, just try crossing the street and try to take over the other groups corner and see what happens. i am not the only one that grew up in this era!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9z33lasnkU
You are right, much better to just take down anything from the right and let anything go with the left. You can rationalize anything if you want.

Very easy to say that taking down Parler is the right thing to do since it is a platform that makes it easy for the right wing extremist to plot out the type of activities like storming the capital building (not saying this is true or false-just saying that it is easy to rationalize). You block these extremists' voices and we live in a better world supposedly. Did you watch the video in "the purge" thread PA started today? Ben Shapiro articulated very well the course this country is on. Once you start stomping on freedom of speech it is a very downward slope from there. Initially it may be for a greater good (once again not saying it is or not) but down the road it likely will not be. These precedents are very dangerous. The fact that these same companies had no problems with violence being incited against communities and small businesses throughout the summer speaks volumes about the hypocrisy of it all. This is all about power for a political agenda. Even if you think the left is right in certain areas, you may think they are wrong in other areas. You give them as much power as they are being given, some time down the road you will regret it. There is a cost/benefit analysis to everything. To much power typically leads to evil and corruption. If you think yielding this much power to any group is going to lead a better country you are flat out delusional.
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You are right, much better to just take down anything from the right and let anything go with the left. You can rationalize anything if you want.

Very easy to say that taking down Parler is the right thing to do since it is a platform that makes it easy for the right wing extremist to plot out the type of activities like storming the capital building (not saying this is true or false-just saying that it is easy to rationalize). You block these extremists' voices and we live in a better world supposedly. Did you watch the video in "the purge" thread PA started today? Ben Shapiro articulated very well the course this country is on. Once you start stomping on freedom of speech it is a very downward slope from there. Initially it may be for a greater good (once again not saying it is or not) but down the road it likely will not be. These precedents are very dangerous. The fact that these same companies had no problems with violence being incited against communities and small businesses throughout the summer speaks volumes about the hypocrisy of it all. This is all about power for a political agenda. Even if you think the left is right in certain areas, you may think they are wrong in other areas. You give them as much power as they are being given, some time down the road you will regret it. There is a cost/benefit analysis to everything. To much power typically leads to evil and corruption. If you think yielding this much power to any group is going to lead a better country you are flat out delusional.
This is true...but balancing out the power has its dire consequences too. When the power is balanced out...there is too much finger-pointing when blame has to be dished out to our "leaders". No matter if the POTUS is a Democrat or a Republican, his excuse always ends up being that the "divided" Congress kept him from fully utilizing his brilliant plan. Put one party fully in charge without any interference at all, I say...and give them enough rope to hang themselves...without any of their petty excuses. And when BOTH our political parties invariably prove themselves utterly worthless...then the citizenry can finally stop lying to themselves.
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You are right, much better to just take down anything from the right and let anything go with the left. You can rationalize anything if you want.

Very easy to say that taking down Parler is the right thing to do since it is a platform that makes it easy for the right wing extremist to plot out the type of activities like storming the capital building (not saying this is true or false-just saying that it is easy to rationalize). You block these extremists' voices and we live in a better world supposedly. Did you watch the video in "the purge" thread PA started today? Ben Shapiro articulated very well the course this country is on. Once you start stomping on freedom of speech it is a very downward slope from there. Initially it may be for a greater good (once again not saying it is or not) but down the road it likely will not be. These precedents are very dangerous. The fact that these same companies had no problems with violence being incited against communities and small businesses throughout the summer speaks volumes about the hypocrisy of it all. This is all about power for a political agenda. Even if you think the left is right in certain areas, you may think they are wrong in other areas. You give them as much power as they are being given, some time down the road you will regret it. There is a cost/benefit analysis to everything. To much power typically leads to evil and corruption. If you think yielding this much power to any group is going to lead a better country you are flat out delusional.
the one thing we had that made us different than many other places was our freedom of speech. who am i to say that parlor is more dangerous than the New York Post or New York Times?
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This is true...but balancing out the power has its dire consequences too. When the power is balanced out...there is too much finger-pointing when blame has to be dished out to our "leaders". No matter if the POTUS is a Democrat or a Republican, his excuse always ends up being that the "divided" Congress kept him from fully utilizing his brilliant plan. Put one party fully in charge without any interference at all, I say...and give them enough rope to hang themselves...without any of their petty excuses. And when BOTH our political parties invariably prove themselves utterly worthless...then the citizenry can finally stop lying to themselves.
Honestly I am not losing any sleep because Joe Biden is president and the dems control the house and senate in a traditional sense. For many years I have had the theory, the power needs to shift every so often just to reverse the wrongs of the previous in control party. We have a left and a right and the correct way of doing things usually is somewhere in the middle. Rarely does either side get it right or can even get it right because most of these politicians are bought and paid for.

My issues are with government partnering with huge monopolistic companies and the MSM and to block freedom of speech and other basic liberties. How far is this going to go? Where are we going? What if I decide I don't want to take a covid vaccine. Will that ban me from traveling. Will that ban me from working anywhere? Will we get to the point where conservative talk show hosts are taken off the air and internet (for poisoning the mind of the people). Will government start confiscating guns at some point. If you worked for Donald Trump in any capacity, are you now unable to get a job anywhere? Will we have some kind of blacklist for people that do not conform to the standards of the left? These things sound over the top, but based off what we are witnessing, are they?

We have medical doctors that swear by Hydroxy and Ivermectin in cocktails with other medicines and their opinions do not see the light of day while 2000 to 3000 people are supposedly dying horrific deaths from covid every day? Are these doctors lying? Why are their reports that 40 % + in the medical field will not take vaccinations? The same people who are seeing the horrors of Covid on a daily basis are scared to take the vaccine (what does that tell me?) I thought these vaccinations were the only thing that is going to save us from Covid?

There is just some weird shit going on this country. Moreover, the people of this country have less control of their own country each and every day, whether they know it or not.
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Honestly I am not losing any sleep because Joe Biden is president and the dems control the house and senate in a traditional sense. For many years I have had the theory, the power needs to shift every so often just to reverse the wrongs of the previous in control party. We have a left and a right and the correct way of doing things usually is somewhere in the middle. Rarely does either side get it right or can even get it right because most of these politicians are bought and paid for.

My issues are with government partnering with huge monopolistic companies and the MSM and to block freedom of speech and other basic liberties. How far is this going to go? Where are we going? What if I decide I don't want to take a covid vaccine. Will that ban me from traveling. Will that ban me from working anywhere? Will we get to the point where conservative talk show hosts are taken off the air and internet (for poisoning the mind of the people). Will government start confiscating guns at some point. If you worked for Donald Trump in any capacity, are you now unable to get a job anywhere? Will we have some kind of blacklist for people that do not conform to the standards of the left? These things sound over the top, but based off what we are witnessing, are they?

We have medical doctors that swear by Hydroxy and Ivermectin in cocktails with other medicines and their opinions do not see the light of day while 2000 to 3000 people are supposedly dying horrific deaths from covid every day? Are these doctors lying? Why are their reports that 40 % + in the medical field will not take vaccinations? The same people who are seeing the horrors of Covid on a daily basis are scared to take the vaccine (what does that tell me?) I thought these vaccinations were the only thing that is going to save us from Covid?

There is just some weird shit going on this country. Moreover, the people of this country have less control of their own country each and every day, whether they know it or not.
My wife died of breast cancer 18 years ago, at the age of 37. Her condition, and my mania for reading, made me somewhat of an "expert" in the topic of cancer. And...it was with considerable surprise that I discovered a nationwide survey conducted among oncologists, in which the vast majority of these cancer "professionals" revealed that they would REFUSE radiation and chemotherapy treatments...if they themselves were ever found afflicted with the dreaded disease. And yet...those are the exact same oncologists who recommend radiation and chemotherapy as "effective cancer treatments" to all their unfortunate patients. "Are these doctors lying?", you ask...proving that you haven't yet figured out that EVERYBODY of authority is lying to us out there...and that everybody out there is taking us for fools. IMO...the legitimate question to ask is..."What are we prepared to do about it?" Because exercising our "right to vote" clearly won't cut it.
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My wife died of breast cancer 18 years ago, at the age of 37. Her condition, and my mania for reading, made me somewhat of an "expert" in the topic of cancer. And...it was with considerable surprise that I discovered a nationwide survey conducted among oncologists, in which the vast majority of these cancer "professionals" revealed that they would REFUSE radiation and chemotherapy treatments...if they themselves were ever found afflicted with the dreaded disease. And yet...those are the exact same oncologists who recommend radiation and chemotherapy as "effective cancer treatments" to all their unfortunate patients. "Are these doctors lying?", you ask...proving that you haven't yet figured out that EVERYBODY of authority is lying to us out there...and that everybody out there is taking us for fools. IMO...the legitimate question to ask is..."What are we prepared to do about it?" Because exercising our "right to vote" clearly won't cut it.
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This is true...but balancing out the power has its dire consequences too. When the power is balanced out...there is too much finger-pointing when blame has to be dished out to our "leaders". No matter if the POTUS is a Democrat or a Republican, his excuse always ends up being that the "divided" Congress kept him from fully utilizing his brilliant plan. Put one party fully in charge without any interference at all, I say...and give them enough rope to hang themselves...without any of their petty excuses. And when BOTH our political parties invariably prove themselves utterly worthless...then the citizenry can finally stop lying to themselves.
Spot on, thaskalos. Maybe, then, people will begin to see that we are more alike than we are different. Until that happens, there will be no accountability of our "Leaders".
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