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01-28-2015, 07:24 PM
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White House: Taliban not terrorists
White House deputy press secretary Eric Schultz, filing in today for Baghdad Josh, shows he is just as talented at twisting language and logic.
Schultz stated that it was okay for the US to trade prisoners for Bowe Bergdahl because our policy is to not deal with terrorists, and the Taliban are not terrorists. They are "armed insurgents".
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/01/28...rorist-groups/
Former UN Ambassador John Bolton today said that this probably reflects an administration assumption that the Taliban will eventually regain control of Afghanistan, and that the US will need to deal with them at that point.
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01-28-2015, 09:16 PM
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Well someone is following the BBC anyway.
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01-28-2015, 10:35 PM
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Words have consequences. You can really hurt peoples feelings calling them terrorists.
Good thing the White House didn't call them "Islamic armed insurgents.”
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01-29-2015, 01:16 AM
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The Taliban are terrorists, but they are or were also a government and an armed insurgency. Bowe Bergdahl was a prisoner of war, at least nominally. He was exchanged for Taliban prisoners who had been captured in Afghanistan during or as a result of the fighting there.
Prisoner of war swaps are common in war situations.
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01-29-2015, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
The Taliban are terrorists, but they are or were also a government
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The Taliban was a government when the swap took place?
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Prisoner of war swaps are common in war situations.
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Yes, when governments of sovereign nations exchange captured members of the military of those nations.
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01-29-2015, 07:39 AM
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Obama's agenda to aid all of America's enemies is showing.
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Originally Posted by Tom
Obama's agenda to aid all of America's enemies is showing.
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Obama knows that under his policies of not offending anyone and his willingness to "negotiate" anything with any government, that area will eventually be controlled by Iran and the Taliban. The ultimate goal is a grand bargain with the new masters, with Obama as the shining hero who has finally brought peace to the region.
Don't you love it when a plan comes together? 
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01-29-2015, 11:59 AM
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Yeah, it's a real pisser when not everywhere
will buy into Walmart and the golden arches.
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01-29-2015, 12:13 PM
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Yeah, it's a real pisser when not everywhere
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Yeah, and I bet you think the Taliban are freedom fighters, too, eh?
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01-29-2015, 12:20 PM
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Yeah, and I bet you think the Taliban are freedom fighters, too, eh?
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Umm....no.
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01-29-2015, 12:43 PM
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Call them armed insurgents.
Anyone know of any unarmed insurgents?
January 13, 2015.
John Kerry called the Taliban terrorist.
And, it is pronounced Tal I ban, not Tal Y Ban.
He let terrorists go, mopo - no denying that.
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Yeah, it's a real pisser when not everywhere
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Is the implication here that if we'd just stop forcing western culture upon them then they'd be content and we'd know nothing of them? I can't tell what this is supposed to mean in the context.
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White House press secretary Josh Ernest returned to the podium today to clarify why the Taliban are not terrorists.
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"They do carry out tactics that are akin to terrorism," Earnest said of the Taliban. "They do pursue terror attacks in an effort to try to advance their agenda."
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But, he explained, the Taliban limits their tactics "that are akin to terrorism" to Afghanistan, which is...
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...different than an organization like Al Qaida that has a much broader global aspiration to carry out acts of violence and acts of terror against Americans and American interests all around the globe.
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Ah, it all makes sense now.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...errorist-group
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Is the implication here that if we'd just stop forcing western culture upon them then they'd be content and we'd know nothing of them? I can't tell what this is supposed to mean in the context.
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I know we weren't directly trying "westernize" the Afghans.
However, the ultimate objective for the US is to spread democracy.
I don't think that is a bad thing, provided it can be done peacefully.
That was never going to happen in that part of the world.
It was pretty obvious early on that Afghanistan was a "no win" situation.
Russia was there a long time before backing out.
Apart from the search for Bin Laden, there was little point in being there.
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01-29-2015, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
I know we weren't directly trying "westernize" the Afghans.
However, the ultimate objective for the US is to spread democracy.
I don't think that is a bad thing, provided it can be done peacefully.
That was never going to happen in that part of the world.
It was pretty obvious early on that Afghanistan was a "no win" situation.
Russia was there a long time before backing out.
Apart from the search for Bin Laden, there was little point in being there.
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That really doesn't explain the comment at all as far as I can tell other than to dismiss my inference and offer no alternative. I don't really think McDonalds and Walmart are icons of democracy, so... well... I'll just assume there was no point.
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