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Old 08-04-2014, 04:22 PM   #1
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Signer issue..

Hit a race yesterday for around $2k. I go back to Los Al to cash it today and they won't do it because I don't have my ss card. I haven't had it in years.

I have a W2, bank cards, insurance card and 2 picture ID's. I figured they would at least tax me at 30%, but they told me to come back during live racing.

Sigh.. To make matters worse (or better lol), I am very alive in the P4 at Toga with a 10-1 and 16-1 already down.

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Old 08-04-2014, 04:53 PM   #2
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If you have a drivers license, they should let you sign. Its not like you're going to give a fake SS number and a real license, that would make no sense on your part and they should know that.
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:12 PM   #3
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I do have drivers license.. She says the ssa and IRS are coming down on them hard and hitting them with fines if the number is wrong.

Aren't we past this now? The damn SAMs could verify your identity just like the adw's and banks do.
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:23 PM   #4
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If you don't or can't produce a social security card the track should take what is called back-up withholding of 28%. The person you spoke with was either too lazy or did not know how to do the required paperwork.
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:28 PM   #5
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Oh, to have such a problem!
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:51 PM   #6
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In Jersey they would cash you as a "non-resident of the US" and just take a bigger cut for Uncle Sam. Other option is to find one of those 10% leeches to cash it for you
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:56 PM   #7
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I have had this problem the last year or so in NJ. NY, and DE. They are cracking down and apparently there are no exceptions. When I cashed an IRS ticket at a NJ OTB after the Kentucky Derby I felt like I was a criminal-definitely need to go to 100% njbets/TVG where you don't have this problem.
Just get an SS replacement card, hopefully you will get a lot of use out of it.

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Old 08-04-2014, 06:04 PM   #8
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I have had this problem the last year or so in NJ. NY, and DE. They are cracking down and apparently there are no exceptions. When I cashed an IRS ticket at a NJ OTB after the Kentucky Derby I felt like I was a criminal-definitely need to go to 100% njbets/TVG where you don't have this problem.
Just get an SS replacement card, hopefully you will get a lot of use out of it.
Criminals always make honest people feel like criminals.

Ever notice that?
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:35 PM   #9
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In Jersey they would cash you as a "non-resident of the US" and just take a bigger cut for Uncle Sam. Other option is to find one of those 10% leeches to cash it for you
Certain tellers at Freehold will do it for 10%, but you can ask them if they know a 5% guy. I hear that is the new going rate nowadays.
Do they really think people carry around their SS card nowadays?
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:43 PM   #10
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Certain tellers at Freehold will do it for 10%, but you can ask them if they know a 5% guy. I hear that is the new going rate nowadays.
Do they really think people carry around their SS card nowadays?



10% is the norm where im from
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:47 PM   #11
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That is what I asked her, she said she always carries it with her.

I think I lost mine by carrying it with me.

Confusing times on track, try cashing a check with your DL and SS card. They will tell you it is not an acceptable form of ID/verification.

Going down to Del mar on weds, hopefully they will hammer it.
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:49 PM   #12
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Ask one of the tellers to hook you up with a trustworthy 10%er. The tellers usually provide that service for free...and get a small kickback from the signer.
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:52 PM   #13
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Certain tellers at Freehold will do it for 10%, but you can ask them if they know a 5% guy. I hear that is the new going rate nowadays.
Do they really think people carry around their SS card nowadays?
I carry my SS card every time I go to the track, and never any other day.
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:55 PM   #14
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I have never had a teller ask me for a SS# in my life.

My drivers licence has always been enough.
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Old 08-04-2014, 08:03 PM   #15
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In Jersey they would cash you as a "non-resident of the US" and just take a bigger cut for Uncle Sam. Other option is to find one of those 10% leeches to cash it for you
OK, for the record I'm not or ever have been one of the 10% so called leeches you refer to. But they are doing us a favor. Most of them are elderly and struggling. I'd rather give $ to them than get absolutely raped by the takeout and government.
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