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Old 05-06-2012, 10:40 PM   #1
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Rivers Downs timer

I'm going to call tomorrow and see what they say, but does anyone believe these times they are posting? The fractions are all over the place and just seem ridiculous to me, and I'm somebody that looks at times all over the country every day.
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After looking at some of my old pars, they don't seem much different. Always was a slow track with cheap horses.
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After looking at some of my old pars, they don't seem much different. Always was a slow track with cheap horses.
You should look again. The first quarters last year were really strange, but they look normal compared to this year. They are posting trotter times, not t-breds, and they aren't very consistent either.
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After looking at some of my old pars, they don't seem much different. Always was a slow track with cheap horses.
of course it makes a difference. he makes numbers based on the fractional times. if you look at the fractional times in that place it looks like they are just writing any number that they dream of. those times just don't make any sense.
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of course it makes a difference. he makes numbers based on the fractional times. if you look at the fractional times in that place it looks like they are just writing any number that they dream of. those times just don't make any sense.
Yes, I should have mentioned it was the fractions especially. There is no way those are accurate clockings from an electronic timer.
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i have to be the sickest puppy on the universe. i am taking notes on all the trial races at Los Al this evening. there is a big inside bias on the track tonight. there isn't any stable mail with quarter horses as far as i know since YOUBET got taken over.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:33 AM   #7
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I'm going to call tomorrow and see what they say, but does anyone believe these times they are posting? The fractions are all over the place and just seem ridiculous to me, and I'm somebody that looks at times all over the country every day.
The electronic timer from Gulfstream is on loan to River Downs.
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:51 AM   #8
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River down Fractional times (mainly claimers)
6f
24.61 47.63
24.59 49.31
24.41 47.55
25.05 49.06
24.55 48.46
24.06 47.12

5.5
23.50 46.47
23.59 48.21

8f
25.06 49.30
26.02 50.16
26.08 50.62
25.05 50.12
25.39 50.26
26.61 52.13

I am certainly no expert on super cheap fractional times, but there is a little too much spread. Seems fishy. Not crazy differences, but quite a bit. The 2 full second or probably 14 lengths difference on the 4 furlong times
at 6f seems very odd. I took these from dry days, so as not to confuse the issue. Quick and dirty job I did with mainly claiming races. I honestly don't know. Almost 3 seconds difference on 4f times at 8f races.
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I would normally say that I would ask them since I'm at the place every week.But they literally won't speak to me.I called and asked if I could talk to new management last September and again in February.Said I was a representative of HANA and wanted to inquire about track changes.No response.I can't even get 20 year old TV's replaced in the upper level of the grandstand near the 16th pole.I wouldn't expect them to do $hit about timers.If you are a beer drunk and like dollar dogs,River Downs is your wet dream!!
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I almost never split sprints and routes but have done so several days this meet when the sprints were clearly much slower. Yesterday's times look suspect but it is not a sprint vs route thing.
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I've emailed a link to this thread to a contact I have at Equibase. At the very least, they will have a look and get back to me. Let's see where it leads.

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I've emailed a link to this thread to a contact I have at Equibase. At the very least, they will have a look and get back to me. Let's see where it leads.

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Shouldn't the equibase rep at RD be noting in the charts that the races are hand timed?
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Shouldn't the equibase rep at RD be noting in the charts that the races are hand timed?
You would think so. That is just sad in this day and age. They would be better off printing nothing than that joke data they are posting now.

I have no time to call today, but they race on the 9th and I will then.

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You would think so. That is just sad in this day and age. They would be better off printing nothing than that joke data they are posting now.

I have no time to call today, but they race on the 9th and I will then.
And this is after they issued press releases that they spent millions on track improvements.It's beyond hypocrisy.
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Shouldn't the equibase rep at RD be noting in the charts that the races are hand timed?
Are they posting splits to the live feed? If so, it may absolve Equibase if they aren't aware that the teletimer is being operated manually (if that is the case).
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