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Old 04-29-2009, 12:28 PM   #1
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1 - West Side Bernie 30/1
2 - Musket Man 20/1
3 - Mr. Hot Stuff 30/1
4 - Advice 30/1
5 - Hold Me Back 15/1
6 - Friesan Fire 5/1
7 - Papa Clem 20/1
8 - Mine That Bird 50/1
9 - Join in the Dance 50/1
10 - Regal Ransom 30/1
11 - Chocolate Candy 20/1
12 - General Quarters 20/1
13 - I Want Revenge 3/1
14 - Atomic Rain 50/1
15 - Dunkirk 4/1
16 - Pioneerof the Nile 4/1
17 - Summer Bird 50/1
18 - Nowhere To Hide 50/1
19 - Desert Party 15/1
20 - Flying Private 50/1
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:33 PM   #2
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I Want Revenge gets the good post outside the speed!
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:34 PM   #3
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What speed?

And, I loved it when Battaglia said, "The 20 is as good as the 2" ... when clearly it's not. If you have a Big Brown type who can start well and get around the lead without a problem (like he did in the Fla. Derby) only then is it "as good". In looking at this lineup, the only thing that stands out to me are how the 1-2-3 horses and the 19 seem to be in spots that don't help them very much.

Any thoughts?
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:38 PM   #4
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Someone else posted the entries ,I did not know how to delete this. sorry

It's OK, I don't think any big news was made in the draw. The only thing I thought was notable was the two speed horses drawn next to each other. They will both send to help their "hidden" entrymates.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:47 PM   #5
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When will the saturday entries get posted on drf / equibase later today?
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:50 PM   #6
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I Want Revenge looks good where he is..........should be able to drop right in behind the leaders as they head to the front..................also not liking where Desert Party is as I think he is a horse that can hit the board if things go well, but being at the 19 he is going to have a long trip if he tries to go to the front and will be among the stampede otherwise.

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Old 04-29-2009, 12:55 PM   #7
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I don't think any big news was made in the draw. The only thing I thought was notable was the two speed horses drawn next to each other. They will both send to help their "hidden" entrymates.

I Want Revenge is in a good spot and will leave behind the speed to his inside.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:58 PM   #8
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I Want Revenge looks good where he is..........should be able to drop right in behind the leaders as they head to the front..................also not liking where Desert Party is as I think he is a horse that can hit the board if things go well, but being at the 19 he is going to have a long trip if he tries to go to the front and will be among the stampede otherwise.
Desert Party is the only one of the horses that I have been leaning towards using whom I consider to be negatively impacted by the draw. I am a little surprised they went quite so far out with Pioneerof the Nile, but I assume the rationale there is they want to give him as clear sailing as possible.
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Old 04-29-2009, 01:26 PM   #9
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Bris PP sheet with post positions... http://www.brisnet.com/promo/uwc.pdf
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:55 PM   #10
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Bris PP sheet with post positions... http://www.brisnet.com/promo/uwc.pdf
Thanks!!
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Old 04-29-2009, 05:02 PM   #11
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Why isn't Dettori riding Desert Party? I'm usually more comfortable with a jockey who knows the horse...this and the post position worry me now--
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:26 PM   #12
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Why isn't Dettori riding Desert Party? I'm usually more comfortable with a jockey who knows the horse...this and the post position worry me now--
I can't answer that but this is not a new development; its been known for quite a while.
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:35 PM   #13
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I think they felt that he gave a lathergic ride in the UAE Derby which he did.
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Old 04-29-2009, 06:38 PM   #14
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Why isn't Dettori riding Desert Party? I'm usually more comfortable with a jockey who knows the horse...this and the post position worry me now--

He's a Newmarket for Giuneas meet this weekend
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