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Old 01-28-2017, 09:23 AM   #211
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. When I arrived at aqueduct over the pass two weekends, the talking horses pre race handicapping show before each race card is a total joke 100% bland . no life at all
Yup. Monotonous, "down the line" prattle

My guess is that NYRA uses "per diem" rotation of handicapping pals of Serling.
No salaries, no benefits.."consultants". Serling is likely a "nyra contractor as well.

What can be expected from a suit like Kay...an ex-Toys R Us "exec" who cooled his heels as some public park exec until he could pander to NY politicos who run NYRA, for a job.

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Old 02-07-2017, 06:52 PM   #212
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So today, my NYC uncle visited my mother and my mother said please put the horsie channel on. My uncle reminded her that the horsie channel is gone.

They complained about it for a bit and my uncle said: I haven't made a single wager on a horse race since Dec 31st. Not in protest but because I work 5 days a week. I used to bet on my 2 days off and on evenings. Now, there is no OTB and no NYRA channel, so it's impossible.

Way to go NYRA. $25,000 a quarter (1/4 of a year) better gone from your books. He will go on track 4 times a month when Belmont runs but that's about it.

On track, feedback has been similar. Inner city older folks are bitching about out of sight, out of mind. No TV channel, no OTB, no internet capability, no betting.

NYRA, if you read this (and assuming you're NOT TRYING to cannibalize the product-which I think you are), WAKE UP.
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Old 02-07-2017, 07:00 PM   #214
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Old 02-07-2017, 07:02 PM   #215
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Any response to your email?

Nope and on track, a couple of NYRA employees asked me to write to the board of directors. I'll get around to a new letter to them, in due time.


No one is going to kill the game I love, without me doing everything I can to stop it. Not even Cuomo. I wasn't kidding when I said I'm writing to Trump.

Y'all can insert your jokes and mock my letter (which was obviously a venting session and letting him know that you can't screw us without someone bitching to you about it) BUT at least I did and I am doing something about it.

And if I hear one more annoying Long Islander tell me that his/her channel is still on, I'm going to stick some vaseline on their wagering pad (I don't believe in violence unless it's self life defense)

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Old 02-07-2017, 07:07 PM   #216
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Very personable engaging and fan friendly too

I wish I had the honor of watching "matches" with such a racing fan
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Old 02-07-2017, 07:47 PM   #217
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Holy jeebus, you still going on about this, EMD4ME?

Remember, stop digging when you hit China!

I would have thought your arms would be too tired to type with all the patting yourself on the back you have been engaged in during this thread.
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:08 PM   #218
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Holy jeebus, you still going on about this, EMD4ME?

Remember, stop digging when you hit China!

I would have thought your arms would be too tired to type with all the patting yourself on the back you have been engaged in during this thread.
Patting myself on my back? Did you even read this thread? Non stop bashing and smacks on my head. I'm defending myself for those that can't see that.

And yes damn it. I will speak about this till I think no one uses the NYRA channel to handle on NYRA and non NYRA races (remember-this drives non NYRA handle on simulcast races which is hugely profitable for NYRA).

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Old 02-07-2017, 08:24 PM   #219
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Just a few numbers for everyone...

On-track handle, and overall handle is basically even with 2016 when you align the dates properly and break it out to daily handle to account for cancellations.

Handle last weekend was up almost 15% on Saturday and 10% on Sunday.
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:41 PM   #220
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Just a few numbers for everyone...

On-track handle, and overall handle is basically even with 2016 when you align the dates properly and break it out to daily handle to account for cancellations.

Handle last weekend was up almost 15% on Saturday and 10% on Sunday.
I can appreciate that Mr. Tammaro.

How is handle on non nyra tracks? (Via NYRA rewards players-not NYRA bets, which is nationwide).

I would expect on track handle to go UP with no NYRA channel in the city and wouldn't call near even a success.

Is there any way to track (wagers on NYRA races) handle that has left NYRA rewards/NYRA bets (on NYRA races) that has now gone to a competing ADW?

Do you mind breaking down these numbers and not generalizing?

Finally, this is the best winter I've seen in NY in years. How do you account for weather (16 VS. 17)?

I hope you are dead right and I am dead wrong. I bitch because 1) I was personally impacted and know many who have been as well 2) I love this game and want it to do as best as it can.

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Old 02-07-2017, 10:12 PM   #221
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On track, feedback has been similar. Inner city older folks are bitching about out of sight, out of mind. No TV channel, no OTB, no internet capability, no betting.

NYRA, if you read this (and assuming you're NOT TRYING to cannibalize the product-which I think you are), WAKE UP.
If I was in your place EMD, I would feel exactly the way you do....

I don't get it at all...It's as if they don't need you anymore...My sympathies.
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Old 02-07-2017, 11:17 PM   #222
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They complained about it for a bit and my uncle said: I haven't made a single wager on a horse race since Dec 31st. Not in protest but because I work 5 days a week. I used to bet on my 2 days off and on evenings. Now, there is no OTB and no NYRA channel, so it's impossible.

Way to go NYRA. $25,000 a quarter (1/4 of a year) better gone from your books. He will go on track 4 times a month when Belmont runs but that's about it.
LOL. Guy that bet $100k per year suddenly went cold turkey because TV channel wasn't available. You can't make this stuff up.... Or maybe you can....
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Old 02-07-2017, 11:28 PM   #223
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LOL. Guy that bet $100k per year suddenly went cold turkey because TV channel wasn't available. You can't make this stuff up.... Or maybe you can....
Very easy when your 70 plus years old and don't use the internet.

Second, don't you accusers (of lying) get tired of simply screaming: liar!? Just because in your myopic world, you can't grasp/believe things doesn't mean they are not 100% true.
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Old 02-08-2017, 10:40 AM   #225
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I can appreciate that Mr. Tammaro.

How is handle on non nyra tracks? (Via NYRA rewards players-not NYRA bets, which is nationwide).

I would expect on track handle to go UP with no NYRA channel in the city and wouldn't call near even a success.

Is there any way to track (wagers on NYRA races) handle that has left NYRA rewards/NYRA bets (on NYRA races) that has now gone to a competing ADW?

Do you mind breaking down these numbers and not generalizing?

Finally, this is the best winter I've seen in NY in years. How do you account for weather (16 VS. 17)?

I hope you are dead right and I am dead wrong. I bitch because 1) I was personally impacted and know many who have been as well 2) I love this game and want it to do as best as it can.
Unfortunately, I am not privy to that info. It would be interesting to find out though. I would bet that any decreases are negligible, simply because the people who were betting will continue to do so even if they have to change the way they watch races. I know that's an opinion most often propagated by executives, which I am not. However, there will certainly be exceptions.
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