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06-26-2011, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike
Would those who voted for Pat Day please explain why? I consider him one of the most overrated riders of our time.
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Pat Day is seldom mentioned among the game's best ever jockeys...so I don't know if he qualifies to be called "one of the most overrated riders of our time".
In fact, if a poll was put in place asking who the better jockey is/was between Pat Day and Ramon Dominguez...I'd expect that Dominguez would win hands down. People forget so quickly...
Not only was Pat Day an all-time great jockey...he was an even better human being - and a great ambassador for this game.
Not overrated at all in my book...
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06-26-2011, 04:28 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9,893
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
Pat Day is seldom mentioned among the game's best ever jockeys...so I don't know if he qualifies to be called "one of the most overrated riders of our time".
In fact, if a poll was put in place asking who the better jockey is/was between Pat Day and Ramon Dominguez...I'd expect that Dominguez would win hands down. People forget so quickly...
Not only was Pat Day an all-time great jockey...he was an even better human being - and a great ambassador for this game.
Not overrated at all in my book...
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Don't agree - he wasn't nearly as successful when he tried the NYRA circuit (vs the midwest). He may be a great human being. I'm not disputing that at all.
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06-26-2011, 07:08 PM
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In Front
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hollywood Florida
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I picked Willie Shoemake.As a trainer I love small people on horses
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06-26-2011, 08:41 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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How in the world did Gary Stevens get on this list?
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06-26-2011, 09:18 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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I wouldn't ride any of them. But if I did, I don't think any of them could get a quarter in under 45 seconds, even with my recent weight loss
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06-26-2011, 09:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 12,402
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Originally Posted by cj
How in the world did Gary Stevens get on this list?
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Thank you.
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06-26-2011, 10:24 PM
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Posts: 25,607
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
How in the world did Gary Stevens get on this list?
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Maybe its all the Derbies and grade 1 wins? Just a wild guess.
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06-27-2011, 08:20 AM
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EXCEL with SUPERFECTAS
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Pat Day, IMO, had the best "clock" of any jockey I've ever seen race.
He could win with the horses who were supposed to win, sure, but he could also win with the worst horse in the race.
He was one, with the horse, having an uncanny ability to get the very best performance a horse had to give.
You tell him to run 46 at the half and he'd run 46.
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06-27-2011, 09:13 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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How did R.A. "Cowboy" Jones get left off of this list??
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06-27-2011, 06:33 PM
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Veteran
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Posts: 423
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Chris Mccarron.
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06-27-2011, 06:57 PM
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clean money
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Location: Maryland
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Russel Baze apparently posts here...
Russel, just wanted to say it's really cool that u board here. I can't make it 2 votes for you but keep up the great GG work
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06-27-2011, 10:00 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raybo
Pat Day, IMO, had the best "clock" of any jockey I've ever seen race.
He could win with the horses who were supposed to win, sure, but he could also win with the worst horse in the race.
He was one, with the horse, having an uncanny ability to get the very best performance a horse had to give.
You tell him to run 46 at the half and he'd run 46.
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I agree and really miss Pat Day. Maybe not the best on the list but there were a lot of things about his riding I liked. Because of his body type he had the most natural seat on a horse. His legs were straight and his back perfectly parallel to the horses back. He loved to sucker riders by letting them pass in the stretch then he would rally his mount late to go by them. He was also an underated front end rider. Given the right situation he could get horse out front to relax as well as anyone.
I have to think he would be a great Polytrack rider because of his ability to judge pace and save horse. I think he was a better rider than anyone based full time in the east right now.
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06-28-2011, 01:08 AM
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Let's go Reds!!
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,976
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
Russel, just wanted to say it's really cool that u board here. I can't make it 2 votes for you but keep up the great GG work
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Lol thats good!!
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06-28-2011, 01:10 AM
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Let's go Reds!!
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,976
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Hmm R. Baze is on the list but not Calvin Borel?? No love for 'bo-rail?'
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06-28-2011, 03:14 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
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I'll take Garrett Gomez or Alex Solis..
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