Chicago Police to release video of Officer

[ebcorde]

shooting teen


must be pretty bad. 30 minute TV show explaining by Rahm and Police chief. Are they concerned about their "Sunnis" going off. 1,000 murders in Chicago, 700 murders in France all year including last week.

[Valuist]

Originally Posted by ebcorde

shooting teen


must be pretty bad. 30 minute TV show explaining by Rahm and Police chief. Are they concerned about their "Sunnis" going off. 1,000 murders in Chicago, 700 murders in France all year including last week.

Not sure where you get your numbers from but the current Chicago YTD murder count is 427. Are you trying to lump two years into one?

[ManU918]

Originally Posted by ebcorde

shooting teen


must be pretty bad. 30 minute TV show explaining by Rahm and Police chief. Are they concerned about their "Sunnis" going off. 1,000 murders in Chicago, 700 murders in France all year including last week.

Chicago is 234 square miles and has 1.7 million blacks http://blackdemographics.com/cities-2/chicago/
Of this years 400 plus murders only 17 whites have been murdered and 9 whites have been arrested for murder.

France is 247,368 square miles and also has 1.7 million blacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France
I don't have the breakdown in murders for France but pretty safe to assume that most are committed by non-blacks.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by Valuist

Not sure where you get your numbers from but the current Chicago YTD murder count is 427. Are you trying to lump two years into one?

This is from last year. If you have seen the video, you will know why they didn't want to release it. The cop has been charged with first degree murder as well he should have. The question is why it took so long. Even the people cable news bring in to defend the police and always have an excuse for the cops were having a hard time trying to justify this one.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

This is from last year. If you have seen the video, you will know why they didn't want to release it. The cop has been charged with first degree murder as well he should have. The question is why it took so long. Even the people cable news bring in to defend the police and always have an excuse for the cops were having a hard time trying to justify this one.

Cook County's State's Attorney, a Democratic and a minority, made the decision. What more do you want her to do? She charged him with first-degree murder. Assuming the cop's found guilty, he'll never see the light of day again, which from watching the video is a good thing.

[Tom]

Looks like a slam dunk to me.
What is the purpose of the protesting?

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

... What more do you want her to do? ...

I'll field this one and offer up that I want her to consider that next time maybe it shouldn't take the imminent and somewhat unexpected release of video to force that hand after some 13 months of acting like there was nothing to worry about here.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith

I'll field this one and offer up that I want her to consider that next time maybe it shouldn't take the imminent and somewhat unexpected release of video to force that hand after some 13 months of acting like there was nothing to worry about here.

Her office was approached almost immediately in Nov 2014 by the FBI. The FBI and her office have been working on the case for about a year. Charging a police officer with first-degree murder involves legal complexities that are not present in most other cases. Unless you think she never would have charged the officer absent the video's release, the timing should not be questioned. Again, the FBI was part of this entire process.

[FantasticDan]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

Unless you think she never would have charged the officer absent the video's release, the timing should not be questioned.

I think the bigger point (as usual with these cases) is that the officer likely wouldn't be charged at all if there was no video, since after the shooting the police union maintained that the "officer fired in fear for his life because the teen lunged at him and his partner with the knife".

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

... Charging a police officer with first-degree murder involves legal complexities that are not present in most other cases. ...

Amazingly, however, those complexities seem to be tied directly to release of video evidence. Slager's indictment was handed down about two months after the incident. And they seemed to be able to move on him about the second that cell video went public. Here it takes a year to unwind all these complexities, yet the moment the state realizes they can't keep the video from getting out, he's charged. I'll give you some element of your argument here, but it is fairly amazing the way video release to the public seems to clarify for the state all these difficulties that they have with charging their LEO. Therefore, I do question the timing. Either the public is getting the shaft or the accused is if these high profile cases and their bookings coincide almost precisely with when the public is afforded the courtesy of objective depiction on video and the fallout becomes a sudden concern.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

I think the bigger point (as usual with these cases) is that the officer likely wouldn't be charged at all if there was no video, since after the shooting the police union maintained that the "officer fired in fear for his life because the teen lunged at him and his partner with the knife".

You may be right on the first point; I don't know. From what I've seen, I hope he never sees the light of day again.

Whether they're representing cops, teachers or the UAW, unions always, always reflexively defend their union members...nothing unique on that front. You know that.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith

Amazingly, however, those complexities seem to be tied directly to release of video evidence. Slager's indictment was handed down about two months after the incident. And they seemed to be able to move on him about the second that cell video went public. Here it takes a year to unwind all these complexities, yet the moment the state realizes they can't keep the video from getting out, he's charged. I'll give you some element of your argument here, but it is fairly amazing the way video release to the public seems to clarify for the state all these difficulties that they have with charging their LEO. Therefore, I do question the timing. Either the public is getting the shaft or the accused is if these high profile cases and their bookings coincide almost precisely with when the public is afforded the courtesy of objective depiction on video and the fallout becomes a sudden concern.

Without the release of the video, the charges would not have been made yesterday, the prosecutor's office already admitted that. That does NOT mean charges were not forthcoming. To convict an on-the-duty cop of first-degree murder, you need a more than airtight case. If it takes an extra 12 to 14 months to deliver justice, then the wait is worth it.

[ReplayRandall]

Here's the video:

http://media.smh.com.au/video-news/v...g-7036874.html

Full Reuters video, must scroll down and click on:

http://www.reuters.com/

[MONEY]

I think that the Jason Van Dyke or a relative/friend of "the killer cop" new somebody in some high office in Illinois.

If I am right, the most likely reason for the delay in charges is that he had 14 years on the police force.

They were probably waiting for him to reach his 15th year, at which time he would have been eligible for a partial pension.

[Tom]

You can get a pension after being charged with murder????