Quotes From People Who Are Clueless

[lamboguy]

if no one steps up to the plate there will be no horseracing period. i mean not great races like kentucky derby's jockey club gold cup's breeders cups and so on in this great country. the racing handle is down $1billion year to year, i suspect it will be down at least another billion next year. slot revenues are down year to year, and i suspect they will be down more next year.

takeout is high, but in the order of major problems in the racing game it is low on priority list. truthfully though, even if you cut the takeout in half of what it is today it would only have an effect on business for a very short period of time.
there is so much to adress and no one that has any count feels like adressing the issues.

[affirmedny]

Originally Posted by Charli125

Here's one for you.
Originally Posted by jonnielu
HANA wants an image of standing up for the little guy, without actually being an example to the little guy of how to stand up. And, hopefully, the little guy doesn't notice how fast they sold out while they build a good customer list.

jdl

How about standing up for us "little guys" on NJBETS with no NYRA video? thanks

[Horseplayersbet.com]

"Two self interested entities applying bubble gum to the cracks of an antiquated and obsolete system. In the effort to garner publicity, HANA and Equibase continue in the failure to appeal to two generations of potential fans, already alienated by the overload of grandpa’s information format."

-Jon Luman
http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/eq...gets-it-right/

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Horseplayersbet.com

"Two self interested entities applying bubble gum to the cracks of an antiquated and obsolete system. In the effort to garner publicity, HANA and Equibase continue in the failure to appeal to two generations of potential fans, already alienated by the overload of grandpa’s information format."

-Jon Luman
http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/eq...gets-it-right/

Sounds like our own Jonnielu...even the name is familiar....

[Horseplayersbet.com]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Sounds like our own Jonnielu...even the name is familiar....

It is. I Google searched his name.

[Horseplayersbet.com]

"Well, this is the last I have to say. If they need rebates to make a profit they must not be very good. They should stop gambling.

I have been betting for over 30 years, am I am not exactly poor."
JerseyBoy 12 Jul 2010 9:18 AM
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/final...fred-pope.aspx

[rwwupl]

Originally Posted by DeanT

That was one of the funniest comments I have ever seen and it does nicely show how some think.

Could you imagine going to a McDonald's annual meeting and hearing someone say: "If this company continues trying to cater to the customers it's going to fail. Enough already!"

Only in racing. Only in racing.

Ha Ha Ha...Someday,Someday..The "Me First" leadership of horse racing will get the idea or be replaced with Sportsmen who get it.Success will follow.

Horseplayersbet.com,keep up the good work.

rwwupl

[InsideThePylons-MW]

"I would love to see takeout of 10% for WPS, 13%-17% for exotic wagers, and 20% for super exotic wagers, but part of me would like to see a track try 30% takeout as a starting point to see how it affects business." ......Ed DeRosa (Thoroughbred Times Editor)

http://blog-beb.thoroughbredtimes.co...-rakeback.html

[cj]

Originally Posted by InsideThePylons-MW

"I would love to see takeout of 10% for WPS, 13%-17% for exotic wagers, and 20% for super exotic wagers, but part of me would like to see a track try 30% takeout as a starting point to see how it affects business." ......Ed DeRosa (Thoroughbred Times Editor)

http://blog-beb.thoroughbredtimes.co...-rakeback.html

How does he think it would affect business?

[DeanT]

There are already places that have takeout of 35% - Turkey.

[rrbauer]

There are some horseplayers who are going to the track or going to bet regardless of ancillary things such as takeout. Only dark days will keep them away (and experiencing withdrawal symptons). Takeout could be 50% for those people and they wouldn't flinch.

[Horseplayersbet.com]

Originally Posted by rrbauer

There are some horseplayers who are going to the track or going to bet regardless of ancillary things such as takeout. Only dark days will keep them away (and experiencing withdrawal symptons). Takeout could be 50% for those people and they wouldn't flinch.

Takeout affects everyone regardless of whether they care or not. If slots took out 30%, there would still be people dying to go whenever they could....but they would have to go less because of finances, and some would quit because they just won't last long enough for it to be as fun anymore.

[InsideThePylons-MW]

Originally Posted by cj

How does he think it would affect business?

He obviously thinks it might not affect business at all.

30% takeout as a starting point? When handle stays flat, he'd want to raise it to 40%.