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Old 03-21-2023, 01:11 PM   #1
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White House shuts down possible ceasefire in Ukraine for a second time?

Why?

Glenn Greenwald, GOAT II, attempts to answer...

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Old 03-21-2023, 01:16 PM   #2
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I seriously hope none of this is true.
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Old 03-21-2023, 01:55 PM   #3
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A ceasefire is not in our intrest.

Fighting a proxy war with Russia and now China…Priceless.
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Old 03-21-2023, 02:03 PM   #5
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I seriously hope none of this is true.
But does it really matter when it seems no one will be held accountable, can you hold someone accountable when they leave office and they then say who is she about his wife? Believe it that it is all part of the plan, even if in reality he leaves office with total recall.
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Old 03-21-2023, 02:47 PM   #6
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A ceasefire is not in our intrest.

Fighting a proxy war with Russia and now China…Priceless.
Bingo!

We never met a war we didn't love.

If they could bring back COVID rhey would.

The whole thing has nothing to do wuth the Ukrainians or the American citizend.

Never was.
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Old 03-21-2023, 08:34 PM   #7
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I seriously hope none of this is true.
Consider the source.
I think you're pretty safe.
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Old 03-21-2023, 08:38 PM   #8
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Bingo!

We never met a war we didn't love.
You know, you may be on to something here.....
Like Cheney and Halliburton around 20 years ago.
Cha ching!!!
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Old 03-21-2023, 08:55 PM   #9
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a China proposed cease fire will just allow Russia to regroup and restock their ammunition from China.
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Old 03-21-2023, 10:55 PM   #10
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a China proposed cease fire will just allow Russia to regroup and restock their ammunition from China.
Russia to regroup?...

The President of Ukraine is now Putin.
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But does it really matter when it seems no one will be held accountable, can you hold someone accountable when they leave office and they then say who is she about his wife? Believe it that it is all part of the plan, even if in reality he leaves office with total recall.
What?????
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In the other thread on the war I took the unpopular position that the war was easily avoidable and was actually the US's fault because it refused to acknowledge the legitimate national defense concerns of Russia, the fact that the US/NATO ignored that Russian speaking people in eastern Ukraine were being systematically purged by extremist Ukrainians, and that it was the US (CIA) that instigated the uprising that put a clown like Zelensky into power to begin with.

Sure, it all sounds like Russian propaganda, but it happens to be true.

Many things can be true.

Putin may be an anti democratic thug that rules over a bunch of oligarchs and kills off political opponents and hostile journalists like a mafia head, but as leader of Russia he also has to defend the interests of his country and the Russian people in Russia and on the border.

The US can be a much more democratic place than Russia, but our government, IC, and media can also be full of corrupt liars that wanted this war, want to weaken and overthrow Putin, want to use Ukraine for personal corrupt motives, and that are sacrificing hundreds of thousand of innocent people, destroying a country, and lying to all all of us just because they didn't want to and still don't want to negotiate peace.
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it won't be long before more Americans want to protect our borders than Ukraines.
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