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09-24-2007, 01:59 PM
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Update
I just spoke to an official with the AZHBPA. He is willing to sit down with me next week, after returning to Arizona, to discuss the results of this bill and the reaction online to the bill. I have stressed that the online community does not want this to have to get to an official boycott of the Arizona tracks, and that so far the bill has created a great deal of negative publicity for live racing in Arizona.
I will give more updates as they occur...
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09-24-2007, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ALostTexan
Update
I just spoke to an official with the AZHBPA. He is willing to sit down with me next week, after returning to Arizona, to discuss the results of this bill and the reaction online to the bill. I have stressed that the online community does not want this to have to get to an official boycott of the Arizona tracks, and that so far the bill has created a great deal of negative publicity for live racing in Arizona.
I will give more updates as they occur...
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Make sure you ask him how much horseplayer input they solicited BEFORE they turned on the legislative spigot. And, make sure that you tell him that Turf Paradise just went to the top of our Thumbs-Down tracks in conjunction with their opening on October 5.
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09-24-2007, 04:13 PM
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M. Russell
Glendora, CA.
And while they're at it.. they had better realize that the WPS takeout for Turf Paradise is obscene! I refuse to play AZ because of that alone not to mention the advent of this ridiculous law. I'm in CA but had often thought about AZ as a place to retire. But not anymore. I can only imagine the outrage that AZ resident horseplayers must be feeling. 
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09-24-2007, 04:22 PM
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This is your chance to be heard.
I will continue to collect comments throughout the next week, so please be heard, even if you have not played any of the Arizona tracks. This is a golden opportunity for the online horseplayers to be heard, and could set a precedent that could be heard across the country into the future.
Please post your comments, or at least your name and location to show your support...
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09-24-2007, 05:48 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Total -- Complete -- assasination of AZ racing
How can they not know this bill will destroy racing in AZ.....
Boomer did you know about this when we answered your plea
for a Buycott.....now sorry we selected ALB as target....
Not 1 penny for AZ...not 1....the end
Stuball 
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09-24-2007, 06:00 PM
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ALB is in New Mexico and Boomer is not a member of the Arizona State Government
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09-24-2007, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by stuball
now sorry we selected ALB as target....
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Why? 
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09-24-2007, 07:36 PM
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Scott Urban
Not one cent to Arizona tracks unless and until the law is repealed
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09-24-2007, 07:43 PM
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i will not bet Az tracks. mudcat (j oliver )
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09-24-2007, 08:04 PM
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You can count me in on the Arizona track boycott!
Share you signal with all ADWs and watch your profit grow.
Ken R
Northville, MI
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09-24-2007, 08:20 PM
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BOYCOTT AZ RACING
let them know how much money in taxes the are going to lose.that will wake them up.good job texan.im with you.don;t bet turf paradise.send e-mail to the track
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09-24-2007, 08:27 PM
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Traded By Cubs
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Rarely bet AZ racing before. Won't now, until law repealed. Had planned to visit snowbirding parent there for first time, now reconsidering the trip from Chicago.
Steve Miller, IL
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09-24-2007, 08:29 PM
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Adios Arizona
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09-24-2007, 08:49 PM
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I would love it if someone could draw a cartoon of a politician in a nursery of a hospital. The nursery would be like an OTB with the babies laying in their cribs reading Daily Racing Form.
The caption would be the politician saying like "I'd like to welcome all you newborns to Arizona -- the Nanny State."
Maybe even an avatar -- "Arizona -- the Nanny State."
etc.
Last edited by swetyejohn; 09-24-2007 at 08:50 PM.
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09-24-2007, 09:59 PM
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Count me in. Arizona took a big step backward with the passage of this bill. I also believe it may be unlawful based on the following:
1. Many of the ADW’s offer incentives to wager in the form of gifts or cash rebates. HB 2964 forces AZ residents to effectively pay a higher price for the same product.
2. The threat of being prosecuted as a felon creates a “Coercive Monopoly”. Class 6 felonies are usually reserved for serious and often violent crimes. This overly harsh penalty for wagering on a horse race can only be interpreted as a government sanctioned “coercive threat”, designed to eliminate any unwanted competition.
3. Forcing AZ residents to wager at brick and mortar facilities eliminates the technological benefits and advances that online wagering provides.
Horseplayers everywhere are fed up with the disregard shown to us by the racing community. We're fed up with the petty bickering and protectionist mentality. Although we love the game, we don't need horseracing to survive, horseracing needs us.
I urge the people responsible for the passage of this bill to reconsider their decision.
TH
Phoenix, AZ
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