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Old 09-17-2021, 01:54 PM   #1
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Revisiting Sweden After All These Months

It was predicted by the worldly wise that Sweden would be an unmitigated disaster story -- a pestilence of apocalyptic proportions in the making -- because it did not subscribe or succumb to leftist group think in dealing with covid. They refused to follow the "science" of most of the world. But instead the nation confidently charted its own eminently sensible path and it has emerged from this "pandemic" virtually unscathed. The stats in the following article are fascinating and explains why no one is talking any longer about Sweden. The silence is deafening because by any metric, Sweden is a huge success story. Therefore, Sweden is now all but non-existent in the eyes of the lamestream media which lies just as well by omission as it does by commission.

Why Does No One Ever Talk About Sweden Anymore?

One of the most consistently repeated trends of COVID has been the premature declarations of victory from areas with a perceived level of “success” in “controlling” the pandemic.

It’s happened in countries all over the world — Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, Mongolia — just to name a few examples. They all have been praised for their ability to “control” the virus with masks and public health measures, only to then see cases invariably skyrocket.

Incompetent media reporting and dangerously ignorant “expert” pontifications have been an infuriatingly persistent aspect of COVID messaging, with their incoherent ravings becoming increasingly desperate as time wears on.

On the flip side to inaccurate praise, the incomprehensible inability of experts to get anything right is perhaps best exemplified by Sweden.


“Experts” and the media declared Sweden was the world’s cautionary tale, a dangerous outlier who shunned The New Science™ of masks and lockdowns and stuck to established public health principles and pre-pandemic planning.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/w...sweden-anymore
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Good article. I agree with the premise that it's funny the MSM isn't talking about Sweden anymore.

I do have a couple things that the article didn't mention.

So Sweden had more covid deaths earlier in the pandemic ;other countries "caught up" to them later. That doesn't mean that they are equal. Maybe some people had their life extended six extra months or so. What's six months of living worth? Would you rather be told you had six weeks to live or six months? The grim reaper is going to get everyone eventually , but lifespan matters.

It's not like Sweden did nothing. Eventually they recommended masks on public transportation and in crowded rooms.

They didn't force any businesses to close, but some restaurant owners were complaining that the government was recommending that people do not got to them and as well as wouldn't help them financially.

Sweden has a very high vaccination rate.
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Old 09-17-2021, 07:38 PM   #3
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Good article. I agree with the premise that it's funny the MSM isn't talking about Sweden anymore.

I do have a couple things that the article didn't mention.

So Sweden had more covid deaths earlier in the pandemic ;other countries "caught up" to them later. That doesn't mean that they are equal. Maybe some people had their life extended six extra months or so. What's six months of living worth? Would you rather be told you had six weeks to live or six months? The grim reaper is going to get everyone eventually , but lifespan matters.

It's not like Sweden did nothing. Eventually they recommended masks on public transportation and in crowded rooms.

They didn't force any businesses to close, but some restaurant owners were complaining that the government was recommending that people do not got to them and as well as wouldn't help them financially.

Sweden has a very high vaccination rate.
It's one thing to recommend and something else altogether to mandate. Sweden stuck solidly behind individual choice, which is how it should be. I venture to say the same principle applied to vaxxes.
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Sweden vs Biden.
Which is the better plan?


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Old 09-17-2021, 08:22 PM   #5
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Sweden vs Biden.
Which is the better plan?

Yup, real science! Not phony baloney, plastic banana, good time rock 'n' roll science fiction science.
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Sweden vs. USA

Obviously Sweden = TRUMP ORANGE BAD

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It was predicted by the worldly wise that Sweden would be an unmitigated disaster story -- a pestilence of apocalyptic proportions in the making -- because it did not subscribe or succumb to leftist group think in dealing with covid. They refused to follow the "science" of most of the world. But instead the nation confidently charted its own eminently sensible path and it has emerged from this "pandemic" virtually unscathed. The stats in the following article are fascinating and explains why no one is talking any longer about Sweden. The silence is deafening because by any metric, Sweden is a huge success story. Therefore, Sweden is now all but non-existent in the eyes of the lamestream media which lies just as well by omission as it does by commission.

Why Does No One Ever Talk About Sweden Anymore?

One of the most consistently repeated trends of COVID has been the premature declarations of victory from areas with a perceived level of “success” in “controlling” the pandemic.

It’s happened in countries all over the world — Vietnam, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, Mongolia — just to name a few examples. They all have been praised for their ability to “control” the virus with masks and public health measures, only to then see cases invariably skyrocket.

Incompetent media reporting and dangerously ignorant “expert” pontifications have been an infuriatingly persistent aspect of COVID messaging, with their incoherent ravings becoming increasingly desperate as time wears on.

On the flip side to inaccurate praise, the incomprehensible inability of experts to get anything right is perhaps best exemplified by Sweden.


“Experts” and the media declared Sweden was the world’s cautionary tale, a dangerous outlier who shunned The New Science™ of masks and lockdowns and stuck to established public health principles and pre-pandemic planning.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/w...sweden-anymore
Good find, boxcar
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Old 09-19-2021, 12:50 PM   #8
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An Informative Study in Contrasts

It appears Israel is poised to double down on doubling down on stupid!

The More Israel Doubled Down on COVID, the Worse Things Got

“Our tolerance for people who do not get vaccinated has run out,” Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett stated Sunday, exasperated that his vaccination strategy—arguably the most aggressive in the world—has failed to curb the Delta variant coursing through the country.

Instead of defeating the virus, as he had been promising for weeks in pushing a third COVID shot on Israelis, the number of Israelis at peril climbed steadily: 246 on Sunday were deemed critically ill, 178 of them on ventilators; a week earlier the numbers were 206 and 157, and two weeks earlier 203 and 153. About 400 Israelis died in the last two weeks, up from about 300 in the previous two weeks.

The happy talk from some Israeli medical experts earlier this month, when they expressed optimism the worst was over, is gone, replaced by dire reports of hospitals being swamped, staff in a state of post-trauma panic, and patients needing care instead hurriedly sent home—a situation deemed “catastrophic” in early September by Dr. Amir Neuberger, the director of the Rambam Health Care Campus’s coronavirus ward.


The article then goes on to compare some Israeli covid stats with Sweden. No contest. Not even close. Sweden with is reasonable and rational approach wins that contest hands down.

But there's another little interesting tidbit in the article because there is a subset of Israelis, who apparently, were exempted from mandates based on religious grounds. These were the "ultra orthodox" Jews. These Jews represent the only good covid news coming out of Israel!

Israel does have a COVID success story, which ironically occurred where its government most failed to implement its policies. Unlike most of the Israeli population, its ultra-Orthodox largely shunned lockdowns and vaccination early on, leading to a high rate of natural infection, followed by natural immunity and long-lived protection (pdf). The ultra-Orthodox represented 4 percent of Delta cases, according to Israeli Health Ministry data in August. Overall, Israelis with natural immunity represent 1 percent or less of Delta cases.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-mo...heLibertyDaily

It appears this small segment of the population followed more or less in Sweden's footsteps and have fared very well overall! God has rewarded smarts!
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