Sandra Bland Arrest Video

[badcompany]

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett

Well I do. What's the reasoning for anyone killing her. No one in the jail had anything to do with her arrest. You're suggesting there was a conspiracy to kill this nobody black woman over her bad behavior during a traffic stop?
You'll see when the process plays out you'll be proven wrong.

Liberals have a way of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

They could've just focused on the cop being unprofessional and letting his badge go to his head, but, no, they have to come up with a conspiracy theory based on zero evidence.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by badcompany

Liberals have a way of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

They could've just focused on the cop being unprofessional and letting his badge go to his head, but, no, they have to come up with a conspiracy theory based on zero evidence.

I never said a conspiracy was needed to wonder why Blunt hanged herself just a few hours before her sister was set to come and pay the $500 bail it would have taken to get her out of jail and two days before taking her dream job at her alma mater.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/22/us/tex...est/index.html

Bland, who authorities say hanged herself in her jail cell, was not clinically diagnosed with depression or on any medication and was "ecstatic" at the prospect of starting a new job at her alma mater in Texas, family attorney Cannon Lambert said at a press conference.

"Why is it that a 28-year-old woman who had received two job offers take her own life? Why would she call her mom in excitement about those jobs and take her own life?" Texas, family attorney Cannon Lambert said at a press conference.

[Tom]

She was depressed over global warming and decided to check out early.

[sammy the sage]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

She wasn't arrested for refusing to stop smoking. She was arrested for her overall conduct. That was just a part of it.

He made a reasonable request. Don't act like he ordered her to get naked or hurled racial epithets at her, thus causing her irrational behavior.

When you're pulled over by a cop, the point is not to exacerbate the situation. When did parents stop teaching their kids this simple life lesson?

If she had listened to parental guidance 101, she would have never found herself under arrest. Plain and simple.

Thus yes, her getting arrested and going to jail was in fact her fault. To say otherwise is just willful ignorance.

And my "not at all" reply was in response to this red herring posted by you to me: "So you're asserting that a "law enforcement" officer has the right to "order" someone who is not under arrest to obey any arbitrary "order""

I believe my words were "reasonable request" not "any arbitrary order."

the constitution is SUPPOSED to PROTECT us from THIS type of cop's attitude....yeah her attitude sucked....SO WHAT....she did NOTHING against THE law that warranted THE arrest...PERIOD...

so what you're saying reasonable request gives cops THE right NOW to VIOLATE constitutional rights...

[Robert Goren]

Even Donald Trump said that her arrest was not warranted and the Cop escalated the situation when he should have deescalated it. He also said while he hope it was not true, he was not sure that some cops target blacks.

[Tom]

So now you listen to Trump?

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by Tom

So now you listen to Trump?

Never said I did not. I just do not agree with him on most things, but on this one, he got it right.

[hcap]

Listening to both you and Trump is futile

[badcompany]

Originally Posted by Robert Goren

Even Donald Trump said that her arrest was not warranted and the Cop escalated the situation when he should have deescalated it. He also said while he hope it was not true, he was not sure that some cops target blacks.

This is more about City Hall extortion. Overstretched governments using cops to write tickets for nickel and dime crap.

The midget cop pulled the women over for not signaling when getting out of his way. That's the opposite of what a cop should be. Now, the midget won't be pulling anyone over and soon won't have his badge and gun to hide behind.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by hcap

Listening to both you and Trump is futile

I'll call the Donald and suggest we try to dumb it down more for you.

[hcap]

I'll call the Donald and suggest we try to dumb it down more for you.

Both you and the Donald are dumb enough. Can't get much dumber
Trying to understand either of you is what is futile.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Hank

She did not go off on him she stated that she had the right to smoke in her car.Then he had to show her who was boss.

Yeah, telling a cop what your rights are are a great way to make the process go in your favor.

She acted in almost every way opposite to how you're supposed to act when pulled over by the police. She brought everything on herself with her attitude. The cop may have been wrong in how he handled the situation, but the situation would never have evolved to the point it did if she had acted like most everyone else knows how to act when pulled over:

http://www.browarddefender.org/page3.html

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by ronsmac

One of my good friends is a retired Baltimore City cop, and he even says they're are a lot of bad cops in Baltimore. The job is too stressful for a lot of these guys and many just aren't mentally and psychologically able to handle the job.

That's all well and good. Nobody is here claiming all cops are professionals and perfect examples of what a cop should be.

There are bad employees in every profession.

With that said, this woman deserves much of the blame for how she ended up. Like she couldn't tell this cop wasn't the type to **** around with early on?

Come on man...

It's almost like she WANTED to be arrested...so who knows...maybe her death did involve foul play. My mind isn't that closed to at least entertain the possibility.

However, I blame her for ending up in jail...how she died is a separate issue altogether in my opinion.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

Too many questions.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/op...case.html?_r=0

From the NYT.
Questions About the Sandra Bland Case

1. On the video released by the Texas Department of Public Safety of Bland’s traffic stop, the arresting officer, Brian Encinia, tells her that the reason for her stop is that she “failed to signal a lane change.” The officer returns to his car, then approaches Bland’s vehicle a second time. He remarks to Bland, “You seem very irritated.” Bland responds, “I am. I really am.” She continues, “I was getting out of your way. You were speeding up, tailing me, so I move over, and you stop me. So, yeah, I am a little bit irritated.”

Was Bland simply trying to move out of the way of a police vehicle?

The video shows the officer’s car accelerating behind Bland’s and passing a sign indicating a speed limit of 20 miles per hour. How fast was the officer closing the distance on Bland before she changed lanes? Was it completely reasonable for her to attempt to move out of his way?

Who cares? Cops play these types of games everywhere...that doesn't excuse her behavior. She got busted...whether fairly or unfairly, doesn't matter. Happens to EVERYONE regardless of skin color.

And when you have out of state plates, you better believe you're more likely to be pulled over...who doesn't know this? I know this...jeez man...

You pull over, take your ticket and be on your way. That she got thrown in the pokey doesn't surprise me one bit...tough shit. That she died is a tragedy, but doesn't excuse how she got there.

Cops have been like this...basically forever...

Like I said earlier, are the police some NEW INVENTION that people are still getting used to?

[FocusWiz]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Yeah, telling a copy what your rights are are a great way to make the process go in your favor.

She acted in almost every way opposite to how you're supposed to act when pulled over by the police. She brought everything on herself with her attitude. The cop may have been wrong in how he handled the situation, but the situation would never have evolved to the point it did if she had acted like most everyone else knows how to act when pulled over:

http://www.browarddefender.org/page3.html

I agree that there has been a growing media tolerance of disrespect and resisting arrest by the news media. You are allowed to threaten police and tell them they are wrong, now. You are allowed to resist arrest, knowing that you will become a martyr as long as the episode is being videoed.

However, I will also state that different groups have a different (real or imagined) experience with police officers and this difference also varies by region as well as with individual officers. It could be the color of your skin, the way you wear your hair, the way you dress, the condition of your car, the state of your license plate, or just the way you look. Different people have different experiences and then react based on those past experiences.

Those of us who understand this, have the option of trying to tone the situation down or let it explode.

I was stopped in Chattanooga basically for having northern license plates. My "Yes, officer" "No, Officer" dialogue gave me a much different result than a friend who was stopped for a similar offense in Georgia:

Officer: Nobody drives through Georgia that fast and gets away with it.
Friend: Sherman did.