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01-24-2022, 06:36 PM
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#3076
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Thornhill ON
Posts: 466
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Future is here...
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Originally Posted by myohmyjustify
DON'T buy the dip tomorrow or any time in the near future. Don't get suckered in the Wall Street garbage about "reversals". It's a trap.
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Billionaires fighting over pennies
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01-24-2022, 06:58 PM
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#3077
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2021
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,554
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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Its so funny.....
The S & P recovers big time ....but you still lost money!!!
Happens every time
Mike
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01-24-2022, 07:01 PM
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#3078
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,633
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think about all the money it took to move the market up and down like that in one day
then ask yourself...whose money was that?
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01-24-2022, 08:28 PM
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#3079
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2021
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
think about all the money it took to move the market up and down like that in one day
then ask yourself...whose money was that?
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My money went down ..yours went up
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01-24-2022, 09:25 PM
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#3080
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2020
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,086
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
think about all the money it took to move the market up and down like that in one day
then ask yourself...whose money was that?
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It's almost certain that this money really and truly is yours, mine and millions of other investors with savings accounts, IRA and 401(k) assets and individual investors, etc.
The top six US investment companies alone hold about $35.5 trillion in assets.
BlackRock $9.5 Trillion
Schwab $7.6 T
Vanguard $7.2 T
Fidelity $4.2 T
State Street $3.9 T
JP Morgan/Chase $3.0T
Plus, there are life insurance and P & C insurance companies, Federal, state and local government pension funds, private union pension funds such as teacher's unions and "blue" collar pension funds.
Then, there are large financial companies of all stripes that invest and manage mostly in the bonds and other fixed income arenas. The bond and fixed income market is even larger than the stock markets, in the USA and around the world. By a lot.
Simply put, pace advantage, the "market" is gi-normous to say the least.
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01-26-2022, 01:30 PM
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#3081
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2021
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,554
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What happened to the companies that gave out warnings about slowing
growth ?
Almost every company gave worried news about upcoming quarters in OCT
This is from Tuesday's calendar ....
Do you see any slow downs?
The markets , these days , are looking like giant Day Trading.....and us little guys are the ones losing...
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01-26-2022, 02:56 PM
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#3082
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Posts: 1,791
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geroge.burns99
What happened to the companies that gave out warnings about slowing
growth ?
Almost every company gave worried news about upcoming quarters in OCT
This is from Tuesday's calendar ....
Do you see any slow downs?
The markets , these days , are looking like giant Day Trading.....and us little guys are the ones losing...
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This market has nowhere to go but down for the next 6 months. I wouldn't buy jack shit unless it's down 20% off it's high.
Any upward movement is going to be shortlived, as in hours long.
You're looking at a 30% drop in the S&P by mid year. the quarters being reported on right now still include holiday spending and money rolling in from advance child tax credit payments, which stopped in December.
The difference of cash coming into the system the last 24 months to the next 24 months is DEVASTATINGLY different.
I predict the feds initial attempts to ease inflation will be too soft, shit will not improve on that front and they will have to bump their hikes, which will cause more pain.
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01-26-2022, 03:16 PM
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#3083
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,633
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The market just vomited up all of its gains today...and there is still plenty of time go
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01-26-2022, 09:14 PM
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#3084
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2021
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
The market just vomited up all of its gains today...and there is still plenty of time go
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We are seeing this shit for a week now.....
My account is getting swings of 6-7-8 thousand a day....
But its always high in the morning and drops in the afternoon...
Like I said before giant "Day Trading" crap going on....
But good news has the Feds not touching interest rates...
Imagine they raised it.....Rex's 30% will actually happen....
another 27% will have my account at what I started with in 2014..
I will sell everything hopefully before that happens
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01-26-2022, 10:25 PM
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#3085
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,633
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Why do day traders always take the blame when you're losing money?
Who do you blame when you're making money?
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01-27-2022, 07:30 AM
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#3086
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Veteran
Join Date: May 2021
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Why do day traders always take the blame when you're losing money?
Who do you blame when you're making money?
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I'm smiling when making money
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01-27-2022, 07:57 AM
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#3087
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Boston+Ocala
Posts: 23,761
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geroge.burns99
I'm smiling when making money
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if you want to make money in these markets, wait for the first-rate hike announcement from the federal reserve. at that time go in with both hands and buy gold min ng stocks. this is probably contrary to most people's beliefs because rate hikes are supposed to strengthen currencies. i don't believe that to be the case this time around.
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01-27-2022, 12:42 PM
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#3088
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Bakersfield, CA
Posts: 1,791
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geroge.burns99
We are seeing this shit for a week now.....
My account is getting swings of 6-7-8 thousand a day....
But its always high in the morning and drops in the afternoon...
Like I said before giant "Day Trading" crap going on....
But good news has the Feds not touching interest rates...
Imagine they raised it.....Rex's 30% will actually happen....
another 27% will have my account at what I started with in 2014..
I will sell everything hopefully before that happens
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The thing right now is that everyone is solely focused on the fed. The market is trying to build in some rate hikes and unwinding the fed balance sheet.
That's all fine and good but I don't hear ANYONE talking about the economy. I'm listening to these talking heads saying "Well the broader markets are down 10% that should just about end the losing streak" LOL WTF are these people thinking? Rate hikes are being built into market pricing but the economy is about to lose steam.
You can't take stimulus money, PPP money, SBA lending money, unemployment money and child tax credit money off the table and expect Apple to sell more Iphones, or for Amazon to sell more web services.
I've sold half of everything in my portfolio that isn't a value/ energy/ dividend play. I'll hold that cash for the next 6 months, maybe 12. If I'm wrong oh well, I can't sit there and watch the account bleed slowly while ignoring everything going on.
Last edited by Rex Phinney; 01-27-2022 at 12:44 PM.
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01-28-2022, 03:00 AM
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#3089
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Boston+Ocala
Posts: 23,761
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to me it looks like there is about 6 months of rate hikes before they stop hiking and quite possibly come in with rate cuts by the end of the year.
even though the gold mining stocks have been hammered the past few days, i suspect a further decline into the rate hike announcement. there is a possibility of seeing some type of a bounce in them right now before a generational buy point comes in. i fully expect mining stocks to accelerate to the upside for many years to come and probably will lead any market activity just like Amazon, Apple and Microsoft have done during this last leg of the tech boom.
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01-28-2022, 09:28 PM
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#3090
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Buckle Up
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 10,614
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Hope you all enjoyed today's Dead Cat Bounce....Monday is PAIN.
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