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04-22-2010, 12:21 PM
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What killed attendance at the race tracks, name a few.
What killed attendance at the race tracks, name a few.
1. Internet betting
2. Plasma TV's (Big Screen) in y our den or living room. People, if you have one, one will know what I mean.
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04-22-2010, 12:23 PM
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Limited customer service.
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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04-22-2010, 12:37 PM
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1.Time/Times
2. The Economy of going... (Look at the other thread Derby Day $800.00 per night for a room.)
3. Video Games... kids would rather sit in front of a tv playing games then go to the track with dad or gramps. So we have lost generations.
4. Web... Ubet. bris. ect. lets you bet from home at almost any track.
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04-22-2010, 12:42 PM
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Horses being retired too soon.
The stupidity of the industry to loose their hold on airing races on TV at a regular basis...back in the day, you could watch the races every Saturday on TV.
Customer relations
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04-22-2010, 01:21 PM
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Casinos popping up near racetracks. Killed Canterbury until they got approved to have gambling. I am sure the Cali casinos aren't helping out there either.
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04-22-2010, 01:54 PM
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Competition for the gambling/entertainment dollar is the genesis of it. Nearly all of the 'ills' can be traced back to that. Now you can find more gambling options (lottery, casino, poker, bingo, etc) closer to tracks than they were back when racing was at its peak of success.
Many of those options have major benefits over racing ... ease of access to the product, better customer service, better facilities, lower 'takeout', easier games to understand ... the list goes on.
And yes, OTB's and internet wagering have also led to a decline in on-track attendance, however they also helped slow the decline in overall handle by improving access to the product.
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04-22-2010, 01:56 PM
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Slowness of the game (live racing). People have too many things to do in their lives to spend 4-5 hours on a beautiful weekend day to watch 8 or 9 live races.
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04-22-2010, 02:19 PM
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gvt sanctioned gambling.
there's a gambling option on every corner , why spend the time or money to get to some worn out hell-hole of a track when you can pop over to the local QT for a lottery fix or a nearby casino for a nice meal and a few mindless games of chance?
No mystery at all.
tracks getting casino action is not going to help. It will keep a portion of the track "open" but it's a shell biz without the casino.
The "operators" will soon be done with those shells, the tax money will be required, the horsemen in all but a FEW states will get their welfare ripped from their hands in a flash.
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04-22-2010, 02:20 PM
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The third race at Pimlico.
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04-22-2010, 02:23 PM
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04-22-2010, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ddog
gvt sanctioned gambling.
there's a gambling option on every corner , why spend the time or money to get to some worn out hell-hole of a track when you can pop over to the local QT for a lottery fix or a nearby casino for a nice meal and a few mindless games of chance?
No mystery at all.
tracks getting casino action is not going to help. It will keep a portion of the track "open" but it's a shell biz without the casino.
The "operators" will soon be done with those shells, the tax money will be required, the horsemen in all but a FEW states will get their welfare ripped from their hands in a flash.
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 As much as I would just about be any place but a casino, I have to agree.
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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04-22-2010, 02:41 PM
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Internet chat rooms.
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04-22-2010, 02:43 PM
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backstretch kitchens!
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04-22-2010, 03:19 PM
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one plasma vs a bank of them at a racetrack?
races go off every 7mins too, nobody waiting a half hour between races.
There is no reason why racing which appealed to amongst the widest audiences of any sport now appeals to no one beyond incompetent, inept and idiotic management and stewardship over the sport.
The racetracks crapping on their customers heads for 40yrs.
Race track patron is right up there with airline passengers in how the industries treat their customers as an inconvenience.
State set aside gambling-if slots were in every gas station in the country,
the racetrack would be using horse racing to attract patrons not slot machines. THey wouldn't have spent 99% of the budgets trying to lure slot machines instead of racing fans either.
THe better question is what on all planet earth has the industry done to try and get fans out to the track beyond offering over priced short field horse racing rife with perf enhancers?
Last edited by Foolish Pleasure; 04-22-2010 at 03:24 PM.
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04-22-2010, 03:46 PM
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A few:
World War 2; TV; lack of live horses in a young person's experience; other forms of legal betting; lack of forward thinking and proper and innovative promotion by racing to put horses and racing in the forefront of the eyes and minds of potential fans and bettors.
"The sport prospered until World War II, declined in popularity during the 1950s and 1960s, then enjoyed a resurgence in the 1970s triggered by the immense popularity of great horses such as Secretariat, Seattle Slew, and Affirmed, each winners of the American Triple Crown--"
Many tracks were closed during WWII.
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