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06-30-2014, 04:58 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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Least favorite....1st time starters...I stay away
Best................sprints on dirt...
The key for me is to handicap and let the odds determine the play, no bets on races with less than 8 horses. Its all about the odds. Yes I pass a lot of races nowadays...
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06-30-2014, 04:59 PM
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#17
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 4,520
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Originally Posted by Valuist
I think most US bettors, who bet anything at all, are well aware foreign turf form, is usually superior to US turf form.
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Really? Then how do you figure a pletcher trainee winning the g3 summer stakes at woodbine at 4-1 chalkie vs an O'Brien charge 3rd in the Royal Lodge g2 off at 9-1
With the O'Brien stomping the pletcher.
Allan
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06-30-2014, 05:06 PM
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#18
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Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 3
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Two year old races are a pass or an "all" depending on how strongly I may feel about another race in pick three-or four sequence. Since I concentrate heavily on NY circuit I really like maidens-special or claimers- since I've usually 1)seen their other races (in real time- where I'm engaged totally as opposed to replays where I know the winner already or am targeting a "horse to watch") and 2) can draw some conclusions based on the connections. But my preferences have changed over the years- turf sprints used to be my achilles heel- at least now I have a clue. Outside NY I gravitate to turf or pray for rain.
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06-30-2014, 05:56 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 647
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Favorite: Dirt sprints.
Least favorite races: maiden races with FTS and turf races.
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06-30-2014, 07:01 PM
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#20
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 18,962
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Toughest? NW2 can be tough to predict.
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06-30-2014, 08:41 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,115
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I like conditional claimers (lifetime) with full fields on the dirt at most tracks.
Also like conditional allowances at mid-to lower level tracks.
Dont like cheap "open" claimers for older horses,and not doing very well on turf and all-weather.
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06-30-2014, 09:06 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 1,911
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Dislike - Mdn's and baby/young races.
Like - Just about everything else, especially Aussie and HK races.
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06-30-2014, 10:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: denton. tx
Posts: 2,966
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Favorite............... 8-10 horse field in a lower to mid-level claiming route race.
Least favorite....... any race where I have to weed through also-eligibles in the form....you know the kind....15 horses listed and 4 or 5 are AE.
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07-01-2014, 01:12 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posts: 1,622
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Favorites: Dirt Sprints including MCL, conditioned claimers, first level alw. Dirt routes of the same classes come in 2nd.
Least favorite: Turf races in general, synthetics, graded stakes on any surface.
I don't like betting two year old races until fall.
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07-01-2014, 01:12 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 10
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Doing some more serious record keeping this year that ever before. IN 93 races I have a positive ROI (+28%) on all races 6.5 F or shorter, or 8.5 F or longer. Between those distances (7F - Mile 70) my ROI is sharply negative(-40%).
The influx and mix of sprinters and routers running those "tweener" races seem to make it tough for me to find good handicapping strategy in these.
Thus anything between 8.5 F and 6.5 F is my least fav race. If I skip such races and do as well in sprints and routes I will do much better overall.
I also dislike Maidens of any kind and any races where the track configuration requires the start gate is almost on a turn.
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07-01-2014, 04:19 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 28,569
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Originally Posted by bull_zeye
Doing some more serious record keeping this year that ever before. IN 93 races I have a positive ROI (+28%) on all races 6.5 F or shorter, or 8.5 F or longer. Between those distances (7F - Mile 70) my ROI is sharply negative(-40%).
The influx and mix of sprinters and routers running those "tweener" races seem to make it tough for me to find good handicapping strategy in these.
Thus anything between 8.5 F and 6.5 F is my least fav race. If I skip such races and do as well in sprints and routes I will do much better overall.
I also dislike Maidens of any kind and any races where the track configuration requires the start gate is almost on a turn.
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Of all the horse racing problems to have...I would pick the one where I couldn't wager on races run between 7F and a mile-70. 
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07-01-2014, 10:46 AM
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Racing Form Detective
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
Posts: 16,316
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Originally Posted by dav4463
Favorite............... 8-10 horse field in a lower to mid-level claiming route race.
Least favorite....... any race where I have to weed through also-eligibles in the form....you know the kind....15 horses listed and 4 or 5 are AE.
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What track are you betting that you find these kinds of races?
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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07-01-2014, 10:47 AM
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Educated Speculation
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Where Palm Trees Sway
Posts: 914
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Boiling it down to the absolute worst and best;
Worse: Maiden's
Best: Sprints on Dirt
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"Horse Sense" is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.
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07-01-2014, 11:27 AM
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Location: st louis
Posts: 2,987
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least favorite: 16,000-25,000 claiming races, 2 yr old races other than stakes races
favorites: maiden claiming and grade 1 on the dirt, 6 horse fields where I know the favorite is either going to win so I can go big in the superfecta with a couple of straight 40 dollar tickets or a bunch of 10 superfectas with the favorite running second, third or fourth.
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07-01-2014, 01:16 PM
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#30
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 5,005
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Favorite/Least Favorite Races to Handicap
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Originally Posted by zico20
I can go big in the superfecta with a couple of straight 40 dollar tickets
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Seriously? You have a positive ROI betting $40 straight supers into a (maybe) 36% takeout? God bless you if you can win in the long run like that.
What track(s) do you take these plunges on, if I could ask?
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