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Meanwhile Cult of Trump still thinks he is doing a Great Job.. Note I am a registered Republican and have NEVER voted for a Clinton. I just clearly see that this guy was, is and will always be a CON.
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Not Trump's fault that the Senate GOP is a worthless collection of liars and scumbags. They had 8 years to get a plan together - it is THEIR job. McConnel needs to retire - he is less than useless - he detrimental to the country. The man serves no purpose.
If anyone of us did their jobs like Mitch the Bitch does his, we would be fired. Rightfully so. Trump is doing his job admirably so far.
Especially for a man with no party backing him.
Out the blame where it belongs - on the useless GOP.
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07-18-2017, 09:53 PM
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I don't think it does. Even if it did they could defund it immediately which would have the same effect. That's why there are the republican holdouts. They ran on repeal and won't let their constituents down this time. Anybody that want's to be re-elected in this climate will screw this up.
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When in modern times the the GOP ever lived up to their promises?
The GOP lacks balls and brains.
You need Tea Party or outsiders.
McConnel and Ryan are democrats.
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07-18-2017, 10:05 PM
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07-18-2017, 10:20 PM
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Relaxing of the energy regs has been a tremendous help to our economy. Try reading sometime. Or hire someone to read to you.
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07-18-2017, 10:28 PM
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I've heard very little about NAFTA repeal or renegotiating those pesky trade deals. This was the chief reason Trump got my vote. And what about the Mexican border wall?
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07-18-2017, 11:11 PM
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Relaxing of the energy regs has been a tremendous help to our economy. Try reading sometime. Or hire someone to read to you.
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Been a huge subject here in Houston for the last few months.
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07-18-2017, 11:28 PM
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Try reading sometime. Or hire someone to read to you.
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07-19-2017, 12:03 AM
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It might be time for Trump to unveil his own healthcare reform package. Recall, during the campaign he said his plan "would cover everyone," "it would be cheaper" and passing it would be "easy." Why doesn't he disclose his plan? I wonder if he doesn't have a plan? Nah.
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And Obamacare is as much about Obama's thinking as is Nancy Pelosi being intelligent.
The President is to guide policy and put down the law when they can.
Problem is, the GOP "law" is scared pussies right now scared of re-election bullshit.
I'm thinking about rioting and showing up at Town Hall meetings to enlighten the stupid people in our masses.
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07-19-2017, 12:37 AM
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There will be a vote for full repeal in a short time. They will never get enough conservatives to vote on any health care bill without a full repeal first. I think Mitch is finally figuring it out.
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I think the premise for the reason for failure to pass a new bill is all wrong.
IMO all the signs point to a Republican Ruling Class WHO REALLY DON"T WANT TO GET RID OF OBAMACARE. The people elected them on the promises that they would actively seek repeal and replace with something "better", and now that they have essentially enough majorities to make it happen, something else is preventing them from doing do. To me the logical reason would be that their #1 priority is not the Will of the people, but the interests of their "donor" class, that is, those who give them lots of money to keep them in their positions of power and influence. Voters can and will remember during the next election cycle, so they will continue to do the delicate balancing act of "appearing" to work for the people while protecting the interests of their donors.
Add to this that they completely resent this political outsider Trump, and want him gone as soon as possible, so they will not be on board with much of the legislation that is going to make Trump look good to his supporters. Time to vote out these enemies of the people in future elections.
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07-19-2017, 02:25 AM
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Reckess you r right on.
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07-19-2017, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
When in modern times the the GOP ever lived up to their promises?
The GOP lacks balls and brains.
You need Tea Party or outsiders.
McConnel and Ryan are democrats.
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when has any politician done that
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07-19-2017, 09:01 PM
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I think the premise for the reason for failure to pass a new bill is all wrong.
IMO all the signs point to a Republican Ruling Class WHO REALLY DON"T WANT TO GET RID OF OBAMACARE. The people elected them on the promises that they would actively seek repeal and replace with something "better", and now that they have essentially enough majorities to make it happen, something else is preventing them from doing do. To me the logical reason would be that their #1 priority is not the Will of the people, but the interests of their "donor" class, that is, those who give them lots of money to keep them in their positions of power and influence. Voters can and will remember during the next election cycle, so they will continue to do the delicate balancing act of "appearing" to work for the people while protecting the interests of their donors.
Add to this that they completely resent this political outsider Trump, and want him gone as soon as possible, so they will not be on board with much of the legislation that is going to make Trump look good to his supporters. Time to vote out these enemies of the people in future elections.
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The republican ruling class are merely democrats in disguise. This is going to bring them out in the light and the mid terms this go round are going to be extremely interesting. You will see many pro Trump people elected. Trump was only a portion of the puzzle.
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07-20-2017, 09:47 PM
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The average net worth of each member of congress is 9 million.
The dems are higher than the repubs.
Do not ever talk to me about honest, integrity, ethics of elected officials. None of them have any.
They are liars and thieves to the man/women.
ALL of them are our enemies and ALL of them have done more harm than all the RUSSIANS and terrorists combined.
Fight the real enemy.
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07-20-2017, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Track Collector
I think the premise for the reason for failure to pass a new bill is all wrong.
IMO all the signs point to a Republican Ruling Class WHO REALLY DON"T WANT TO GET RID OF OBAMACARE. The people elected them on the promises that they would actively seek repeal and replace with something "better", and now that they have essentially enough majorities to make it happen, something else is preventing them from doing do. To me the logical reason would be that their #1 priority is not the Will of the people, but the interests of their "donor" class, that is, those who give them lots of money to keep them in their positions of power and influence. Voters can and will remember during the next election cycle, so they will continue to do the delicate balancing act of "appearing" to work for the people while protecting the interests of their donors.
Add to this that they completely resent this political outsider Trump, and want him gone as soon as possible, so they will not be on board with much of the legislation that is going to make Trump look good to his supporters. Time to vote out these enemies of the people in future elections.
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I think it is much, much simpler than your hypothesis. My take on it is that it very easy for a Republican majority to continually vote for a repeal on Obamacare when they know that they have a Democrat in office who will veto it. It is a great grandstanding move and something that can be thrown in the Democrats' faces. It quite another thing to have the majority in both Congress and the Senate and have a Republican in the White House. Now your repeal vote actually has teeth and your bill be signed by the president. Now you are in a position where you actually have to come up with something that your constituents will like. All of a sudden, things aren't so easy and failure takes place. They had years to work on a good plan and cared only about spending their time opposing the president. Their failure is indeed epic.
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07-20-2017, 10:44 PM
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For the GOP, "no balls" is a pre-existing condition.
Pauly and Little Mitchie are scared to death to do ANYTHING that they could held accountable for.
Two little babies, two little turds.
We might as well abort them both - neither is a viable life form.
Neith will ever be a man.
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