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10-01-2012, 05:16 PM
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In Front
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
all these drugs that they can test for don't mean a thing in this game any longer.
the TB-500 or variations of that substance can turn a horse from a mouse to a gorilla. and there is no test for it, and as of right now its not illegal. and my guess is that its even being used throughout the world in area's that one might think are clean jurisdiction's.
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TB-500..I have researched this Lambo..Tells me this stuff is legal but very expensive.If this stuff can be bought off the internet,Im sure they have a test for it. JMO
Last edited by CryingForTheHorses; 10-01-2012 at 05:18 PM.
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10-01-2012, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by McSchell_Racing
TB-500..I have researched this Lambo..Tells me this stuff is legal but very expensive.If this stuff can be bought off the internet,Im sure its been tested..You cant sell something illegal on the open market.If this stuff was illegal Im sure the website would be shut down.JMO
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i said it was legal, but that doesn't make it right! i have no idea what is in this stuff and the guys selling it won't tell you either.
can you afford to spend $2000 a month extra to put this in your horse's system?
i would imagine that there are probably volume discounts for larger users. would that make sense?
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10-01-2012, 07:47 PM
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Just another Facist
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Location: Now in Houston
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It would be easier for the Tracks to just start buying all the horses, employ in house trainers ........... cut out the rest of the scum.
Tongue in cheek suggestion maybe.........but this is never going to be solved until people start going to jail
either that or put a symbol in the DRF for FrogJuice
I suggest
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10-01-2012, 08:20 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by andymays
You know you're losing anther couple hundred posters right. LOL
Call me. I'll send you a PM.
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If they are leaving, it is because YOU are back.
Who you gonna slander this time?
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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10-01-2012, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
It would be easier for the Tracks to just start buying all the horses, employ in house trainers ........... cut out the rest of the scum.
Tongue in cheek suggestion maybe.........but this is never going to be solved until people start going to jail
either that or put a symbol in the DRF for FrogJuice
I suggest
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FTFJ would be a 'potent' angle for sure. 
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10-01-2012, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
If they are leaving, it is because YOU are back.
Who you gonna slander this time?
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Hey Tom. Keep up the good work..
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10-01-2012, 11:25 PM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
FTFJ would be a 'potent' angle for sure. |
Probably already in Jcapper. 
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10-02-2012, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom
If they are leaving, it is because YOU are back.
Who you gonna slander this time?
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This is real simple slick. The Breeders Cup is out here this year and I would be more than happy to pick you up at LAX and bring you to the track.
How do you like it so far J.O.?
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10-02-2012, 01:38 AM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by andymays
How do you like it so far J.O.?
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Stay classy Arcadia!
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10-02-2012, 02:42 AM
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This thread got way off topic
I spend a lot of time on the backside here in Winnipeg and in Minneapolis
The drug game is never going to disappear, the money in the business is so tight that people will take any edge to try to stay afloat.
It's more about adapting to the changes in the game, what people do or do not have is all speculative and very few people ever do know what really is being used.
In five years a new drug or technique will come out and everyone will jump on that bandwagon. To be honest the three things I think are most commonly used around here is ITPP, ventipulmin and bute since it is illegal. (You can race on Dex or Flucourt but not Bute).
The one thing that is difficult to deal with from a handicapping view is some of the pre race things vets do. Blocking throats, calcium, backup bleeders, but most importantly tapping joints.
Injecting cortisone is a major training tool around here since we get all the castoffs, so a trainer who has little money may run a horse twice and he will tire, then he injects the knees and ankles and spends the money and the horse runs way better, the public has no way to know the horse is getting the work done on him and this makes it very tough, but profitable for the insiders haha.
It would be nice to have some system but that will never happen.
My real only thought is that you will never convict someone and that at some point in time almost everyone has tried to get an advantage of some sort and that will never change, there will always be a nice drug or a new technique.
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10-02-2012, 09:38 AM
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Nice post maclr11...sadly, much truth in what you write...
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10-02-2012, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Stay classy Arcadia!
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Take the time to explain why you 86d. Indulto.
Tom, CJ, OTM Al, and Ray Paulick are fine though.
Step up Mr Owner. LOL
Wow!
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10-02-2012, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by andymays
Take the time to explain why you 86d. Indulto.
Tom, CJ, OTM Al, and Ray Paulick are fine though.
Step up Mr Owner. LOL
Wow!
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Why don't you tell us why. Because I've already spelled out my reasons (yesterday, complete with excerpts from what I told Indulto himself).
I guess you missed my posts on that subject?
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10-02-2012, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Why don't you tell us why. Because I've already spelled out my reasons (yesterday, complete with excerpts from what I told Indulto himself).
I guess you missed my posts on that subject?
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Dude, I totally get why you let me post here.
Explain to the public why you won't let Indulto post.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>?
LOL
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10-02-2012, 03:53 PM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by andymays
Dude, I totally get why you let me post here.
Explain to the public why you won't let Indulto post.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>?
LOL
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I already did...yesterday...how thick is your skull?
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