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Old 02-27-2023, 04:52 PM   #31
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Most of the population, including all Republicans and conservatives...act like battered spouses at this point...we've been beaten so much, we think this is normal now.

LIE TO ME SOME MORE PLEASE! TELL ME UP IS DOWN.

The gaslighting is insane...down to a science...and so effective, nobody remembers anything anymore.

It's so BLATANT, but hardly anybody notices or says a word.
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Old 02-27-2023, 05:06 PM   #32
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Bush took the blame for the 2008 housing crash even though Repubs were screaming for over a year before for hearings on mortgage fraud etc. It was posted here many times. Barney Frank screaming the housing market was strong. Dems calling Repubs liars and chicken littles.

Nobody saying a word now about Biden……..



I lived in Southern California when the real estate crash of 2008 hit. I challenge any place to match that area's boom and bust real estate cycles.
I had a house I bought for $57k in 1980 get an $80k offer from a neighbor a year later, market tanked, sold it 4 years later for 64k. Bought a house for 85k in 1995, put 30k in it, in 2003 sold it for $265k. Bought a house for $390k in 2003, pre crash in 2007 it was valued at $675k. I only put $30k in it. Then the market crashed, in 2010 sold it for $250k.


The problem was in the the bust of 2008 the market was fueled by junk loans
to people who were banking on refinancing once they had the magic 20% equity, and also could drop mortgage insurance. People were also refinancing
and pulling money out to party like it was 1999. It created a false economy that crashed hard. I blame the banking industry and real estate agents telling people the boom was never going to end this time.
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Old 02-27-2023, 07:15 PM   #33
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Been about 6 months since I started this thread.

I think the bottom is still a year away

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...ns-lowest-1995
A thread elysiantraveller is in and is his vocation, to your point about the bottom more specificity to higher crime has to mean flat demand and other factors like cost of living. Just looking hard at this myself for personal reasons.
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Old 02-27-2023, 07:55 PM   #34
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Closer to home Ralph

Texas manufacturing activity slows to 2020 low, survey shows

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2023...1031677520577/
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Old 02-28-2023, 12:33 AM   #35
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Texas manufacturing activity slows to 2020 low, survey shows

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2023...1031677520577/
Nobody is immune from Bidenism
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Old 05-25-2023, 02:59 AM   #36
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Still dropping

Where’s the bottom?

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/...174117525.html

“ The housing market slowdown comes as soaring mortgage rates push away would-be buyers.”
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If this were happening under Trump, it would be a "NATIONAL CRISIS!"

The average Joe doesn't even know it's happening...lol
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Old 05-25-2023, 11:24 AM   #38
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If this were happening under Trump, it would be a "NATIONAL CRISIS!"

The average Joe doesn't even know it's happening...lol
2% OH MY


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Old 05-25-2023, 05:31 PM   #39
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2% OH MY


It’s 6% for the year.

The buyers are no longer out there. The price to buy has increased dramatically. Every time you raise your price you cut out customers……
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It’s 6% for the year.

The buyers are no longer out there. The price to buy has increased dramatically. Every time you raise your price you cut out customers……
Sorry Ralphie Boy (sorry I couldn't resist) you are wrong there too. The article states they are down 6% from their peak in June and 2% year over year. Not 6% for the year as you stated. You may be right when they announce June numbers in July.

How does below portend the "Were does it end" that you stated? Shouldn't they be going lower?

"The price to buy has increased dramatically. Every time you raise your price you cut out customers"
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Sorry Ralphie Boy (sorry I couldn't resist) you are wrong there too. The article states they are down 6% from their peak in June and 2% year over year. Not 6% for the year as you stated. You may be right when they announce June numbers in July.

How does below portend the "Were does it end" that you stated? Shouldn't they be going lower?

"The price to buy has increased dramatically. Every time you raise your price you cut out customers"
There is a formulation about days on the market at the price, I think if property sells under 60 days on the market it is priced accurately. Anyone care to back up this?
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Old 05-25-2023, 06:55 PM   #42
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How does below portend the "Were does it end" that you stated? Shouldn't they be going lower?

"The price to buy has increased dramatically. Every time you raise your price you cut out customers"
I took that to mean "cost" to buy, i.e. interest rate increases, not home price increases. Which does indeed cut out customers.
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Old 05-25-2023, 08:00 PM   #43
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Sorry Ralphie Boy (sorry I couldn't resist) you are wrong there too. The article states they are down 6% from their peak in June and 2% year over year. Not 6% for the year as you stated. You may be right when they announce June numbers in July.

How does below portend the "Were does it end" that you stated? Shouldn't they be going lower?

"The price to buy has increased dramatically. Every time you raise your price you cut out customers"
Point taken. Let’s see what happens…..buying time is just gearing up.

I think it continues down. I have a real estate license in Texas. I see numbers from Texas and talk to realtors in Texas.

Texas is always an outlier in many ways. I’m bearish
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Think the market will be more sideways.

This is a lot different than 2008. Inventory is still very low... Why? People don't want to leave their cheap mortgages. Why move if you're in a 3% rate? Everyone and their mother refi'd in the 2020-2022 timeframe to take advantage if they were able.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...sing-inventory


Of course all this is thrown out window if unemployment creeps and people start getting foreclosed. Heard of some layoffs in big 4 accounting firms so could happen
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If this were happening under Trump, it would be a "NATIONAL CRISIS!"

The average Joe doesn't even know it's happening...lol
COME ON MAN, everyone needs to feel some pain to save the WORLD



Joe needs 4 more years to finish the job.
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