its official (AP to Haskell)

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by nijinski

The Belmont win and your loss never humbled you as you continue
to wear that anger against the the horse and his connections on your
sleeve .

Excuse me? LOL. I have no anger. Cute horse. Over rated, in my opinion. Till he has some adversity, some pace pressure, some thing that makes me go wow, I will bet against. That's all. From a trip handicappers view point, he has not run one amazing race that makes me say WOW...

I have nothing against the Zayats. Not a thing. Nothing against Baffert or Espinoza. I'm not a california player so they are just some guys from out west to me.

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by Kash$

Ganging up on him i could see that.

It won't happen the in the Haskell. I will guaranty an AP win under a hand ride.

Don't care who rounds out the field. I would assume Baffert already was told by the secretary who's aiming there, hence his decision to go there (and his awesome resume there).

[Kash$]

Originally Posted by EMD4ME

It won't happen the in the Haskell. I will guaranty an AP win under a hand ride.

Don't care who rounds out the field. I would assume Baffert already was told by the secretary who's aiming there, hence his decision to go there (and his awesome resume there).

EMD4ME i respect your opinion you see it from a bettors view others may just be fans nothing wrong with neither.. remember Fans is short for Fanatic

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by Kash$

EMD4ME i respect your opinion you see it from a bettors view others may just be fans nothing wrong with neither.. remember Fans is short for Fanatic

I respect every one's opinion, thanks.

I thought this was a horseplayer's forum

Fans are good, fans who bet a lot are even better!

I like to follow chalk that I think is over rated for purposes of betting against it if the opportunity is right.

I've seen enough, we've all seen enough in the last 20-30-60 years to know what is awesome and what is good. Respectfully, this horse has not wowed me like a Tiznow, a Cigar, a Ghostzapper etc. Maybe he will one day. I don't mind losing money betting against him in the BC IF the field is just right. It's a winning wager long term.

[Kash$]

Originally Posted by EMD4ME

I respect every one's opinion, thanks.

I thought this was a horseplayer's forum

Fans are good, fans who bet a lot are even better!

I like to follow chalk that I think is over rated for purposes of betting against it if the opportunity is right.

I've seen enough, we've all seen enough in the last 20-30-60 years to know what is awesome and what is good. Respectfully, this horse has not wowed me like a Tiznow, a Cigar, a Ghostzapper etc. Maybe he will one day. I don't mind losing money betting against him in the BC IF the field is just right. It's a winning wager long term.

Btw Coach Inge runs on Saturday his last fig number was AP like on the same card

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by Kash$

Btw Coach Inge runs on Saturday his last fig number was AP like on the same card

I think the term is called entrapment .....I have enough on my plate LOL, don't get me started even more....

[EMD4ME]

The coach had a much shorter run up for his race, came home in 23.96 (compared to AP's 24.32) and the Coach actually had to do running for most of the mile and a half.

Seems to me AP ran a Coach Inge type figure, not the other way around.

We'll see how legit that "other" 12F race was. Yes, the horse Coach Inge beat at AQU, Touchofstarquality ran a 99 in his next start but Touch has had many layoff lines. You just don't know if Dutrow had him cranked/juiced etc. when he ran his 99 and maybe he was off form when he faced Coach Inge. Plus the Coaches win 2 back was the only 2 turn route at AQU that day. Hard to trust the fig. Time will tell.

[nijinski]

Originally Posted by EMD4ME

I respect every one's opinion, thanks.

I thought this was a horseplayer's forum

Fans are good, fans who bet a lot are even better!

I like to follow chalk that I think is over rated for purposes of betting against it if the opportunity is right.

I've seen enough, we've all seen enough in the last 20-30-60 years to know what is awesome and what is good. Respectfully, this horse has not wowed me like a Tiznow, a Cigar, a Ghostzapper etc. Maybe he will one day. I don't mind losing money betting against him in the BC IF the field is just right. It's a winning wager long term.

I agree with you on looking for that opportunity on beating chalk but this
was not the case . In fact your pre Belmont statement that AP was not
going to win and had NO SHOT followed by post race dissing of the
the other jocks speaks volumes .
Many cappers tried to beat him for betting value but this was not your
stand . He was absolutely not going to win according to you .

The cute horse exposed your ego

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by nijinski

I agree with you on looking for that opportunity on beating chalk but this
was not the case . In fact your pre Belmont statement that AP was not
going to win and had NO SHOT followed by post race dissing of the
the other jocks speaks volumes .
Many cappers tried to beat him for betting value but this was not your
stand . He was absolutely not going to win according to you .

The cute horse exposed your ego

Maybe you missed the posts where I said my stance is he will win if he's left alone on the lead like this horse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQOchrK7NA

Yes, my stance was the race would be ridden differently. I was wrong. They didn't have 5 seconds go by (after the hitting the wire) and I had already posted:

I eat crow.

You are right.

I deserve it all.

Does someone with ego man up like that? I don't think so

[nijinski]

Originally Posted by Kash$

EMD4ME i respect your opinion you see it from a bettors view others may just be fans nothing wrong with neither.. remember Fans is short for Fanatic

A little flip flop here for you . Guess you forgot how excited you felt when he won . Is everyone that got goose bumps a fanatic?

[Kash$]

Originally Posted by nijinski

A little flip flop here for you . Guess you forgot how excited you felt when he won . Is everyone that got goose bumps a fanatic?

No flip flop trying to get him riled up..

[nijinski]

Originally Posted by EMD4ME

Maybe you missed the posts where I said my stance is he will win if he's left alone on the lead like this horse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQOchrK7NA

Yes, my stance was the race would be ridden differently. I was wrong. They didn't have 5 seconds go by (after the hitting the wire) and I had already posted:

I eat crow.

You are right.

I deserve it all.

Does someone with ego man up like that? I don't think so

Post 99 in the crunch thread , you had NO IF in there and I hated to
go back to prove it but this time you're not getting the last licks .

I will back up here too since I'm a nice woman Maybe it's not so much your
ego , just some stubbornness .

[EMD4ME]

Originally Posted by nijinski

Post 99 in the crunch thread , you had NO IF in there and I hated to
go back to prove it but this time you're not getting the last licks .

I will back up here too since I'm a nice woman Maybe it's not so much your
ego , just some stubbornness .

American Pharoah: Triple Crown Winner: NAY or YAY? Thread, post #143 ..

You can still have last licks though

[EMD4ME]

Not stubborn, just passionate

[Redboard]

Originally Posted by EMD4ME

Maybe you missed the posts where I said my stance is he will win if he's left alone on the lead like this horse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQOchrK7NA

Yes, my stance was the race would be ridden differently. I was wrong. They didn't have 5 seconds go by (after the hitting the wire) and I had already posted:

I eat crow.

True, but for every two mouthfuls you ate, you spit one out.

If you are going to eat crow, eat it.