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04-09-2020, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PICSIX
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04-09-2020, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mountainman
With all respect, sir, ask Jerry's kids or cancer victims having poisonous "treatments" pumped into their bodies about the "tremendous" advancements of medical science.
I well understand that it's almost obligatory to marvel at the progress medicine has made. After all, they practice a science few of us understand and the break-thrus they DO make benefit mankind. But what about the utter failures they have been pasting happy faces on for decades and decades? And what is your baseline of comparison for giving medical science such high marks??
On the depression thing, I have never been depressed, or bored, for that matter. Life is too rich, with too much to do. In fact, I'm almost ashamed to say that the pandemic has enhanced my life in numerous ways.
Given such opportunity to exercise, I have never been fitter. My son and I walk steep, endless hills everyday, and I jog and lift weights. And so much time together has improved my relationship with Shane almost immeasurably. Plus, I'm finally making real progress on my novel..and have become much interested in quantum physics..and plan to learn Japanese..etc..etc...and hit balls for hours, fine-tuning my swing on the range, which for me, is akin to pure bliss. And my recent purchase of a low-mileage GM Acadia has sparked an interest in detailing.
Depressed?? tx for the chuckle. And stay safe, sir.
ps-Here's hoping your assessment of medical research proves more prophetic than mine.
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Glad to hear that you're thriving. That earlier post just sounded as if you could be down in the dumps. 
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04-09-2020, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
Glad to hear that you're thriving. That earlier post just sounded as if you could be down in the dumps. |
tx for caring. I am guilty of cynicism, it's part of my nature.
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04-09-2020, 10:38 PM
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New results from the French Scientist reveal a very near 100% success rate with 0 serious side effects. And tests in America reveal identical results!! Almost time to open things up folks.
All projections were insane,wildly off, all of them.
This great astounding news will be more wildly denied by the dems and fake news media for a long long time.
As for a vaccine, I probably wont get one anyway unless they drug me first. lol
Sorry to report the sky is not falling.
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Last edited by woodtoo; 04-09-2020 at 10:50 PM.
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04-09-2020, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mountainman
tx for caring. I am guilty of cynicism, it's part of my nature.
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I have cynicism myself but a vaccine for one virus is doable. The flu vaccine is not totally effective because there are so many variants and strains, and they are just guessing what will be prevalent next year.
When you start talking cancers or genetic abnormalities, there are just too many different types and variations to make a sweeping cure.
There is some data coming out of Germany suggesting 15% of their population has been exposed to covid-19 and self cured. That would sure cut the 'death rates' many are concerned about.
The country also has nearly 7000 people die every day. Some of those coronavirus deaths are people that would have died anyway.
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04-10-2020, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tucker6
As you know, just be informed enough to ask what needs to be asked.
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Thats it, tucker6! Just knowing what to ask is part of the conundrum!
When I had a colon polyp that turned out to be cancer and which had grown so large I needed a surgeon (could not be removed during a routine colonoscopy) I didn't even know the anatomy of a colon to begin with, what the measurements represented, what this KIND of polyp or what the "grading" they give it means, let alone what therapies are specifically suggested.
It's like trying to pass an exam that would normally take 4 semesters to learn, BUT you only have 2 weeks to accomplish that.
In the end, I pretty much just had to rely on "what my surgeon told me" who thankfully was able to fix me up with a good outcome as it was well-contained and had not spread.
And thank you for your kind words.
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04-10-2020, 01:19 AM
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One thing I've noticed is that depending on where you live, even within the same state, you get "mixed messages". So essentially you are on your own anyway, to do what you believe is best.
Example: I am presently living in an condo/apartment complex having left my cabin in the country for a while. Today, one of the dad's put up a basketball hoop at the far end of the parking lots. There were 10-12 kids out there playing today, it was great weather.
Our governor has not issued any kind of strict order. Yet, in the county right above me, their county judge did issue this order for his county:
"BENTON, Ark. — The governor may not be ready to lock down the state of Arkansas, but Saline County Judge Jeff Arey issued an Executive Order under his emergency powers to combat the COVID-19 pandemic. Starting on Monday, April 6, anyone under the age of 18 cannot leave their home unless they're with a parent or guardian. Juveniles in the unincorporated areas of Saline County must “stay at home” 24 hours a day unless they are working, getting medical attention, or buying food or necessary supplies."
So needless to say that basketball hoop would not have been up there. 
And, if you lived in certain other parts of the nation, not only would it not be allowed, but you would probably be facing a fine.
I probably would not allow my own child to mingle in this manner, however, trying to keep them all "inside" certainly doesn't seem doable, or even healthy, and also given that about 1/2 those kids have parents that really don't seem to even want to be bothered with them........just get 'em out of my hair kind of parents......(saying this because I did not see ANY parent out there supervising the kids, or even watching over them.)
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04-10-2020, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mountainman
tx for caring. I am guilty of cynicism, it's part of my nature.
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I too am guilty of cynicism, and friends often mistake this trait of mine as a sign of undue pessimism...even though I keep exclaiming that I am the biggest optimist among them. When things are going along fine, they are all happy and chatty, whereas I am somewhat aloof. But when adversity comes knocking, they are all alarmed...whereas I am always mindful of the silver lining ever-present in the dark clouds. They fail to understand that real optimism is most evident when circumstances become "unfavorable".
This virus has locked me in, sure...but it has also opened other worlds up to me which I had ignored for far too long. I rediscovered my passion for good books...and I've even dared to put a few thoughts down on paper(?!). I've also noticed that my son is much more amusing than I had previously given him credit for being. I have found time for regular exercise...I rediscovered the pleasures of quiet solitude...and I've been reminded of the fragility of our world. I had, perhaps unconsciously, been paying homage to man's misguided notion of having "dominion over nature". 
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Last edited by thaskalos; 04-10-2020 at 01:57 AM.
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04-10-2020, 01:49 AM
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04-10-2020, 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
This virus has locked me in, sure...but it has also opened other worlds up to me which I had ignored for far too long. I rediscovered my passion for good books...and I've even dared to put a few thoughts down on paper(?!). I've also noticed that my son is much more amusing than I had previously given him credit for being. I have found time for regular exercise...I rediscovered the pleasures of quiet solitude...and I've been reminded of the fragility of our world. I had, perhaps unconsciously, been paying homage to man's misguided notion of having "dominion over nature". |
All very wonderful things here.
Like they say, new experiences bring new awakenings/consciousness.
It's like people who travel to places they had pre-conceived notions about ....they learn a lot about other people and other places, in person, rather than listening to MSM and can form their own opinions based on what they experience.
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04-10-2020, 06:52 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: donkeys ride from ASD
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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Humans need to build up a resistance and you cant do that by hiding.
The meat plant closure is probably more economic as some sales have really dropped off with the restaurant closures.
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04-10-2020, 09:43 AM
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a great and touching story about how the Amish mobilized to help people all over the country, not just in their community
the Amish were brutally slandered in that stupid a** cable show "Amish Mafia"
its great to see a story that shows how the vast majority of them really are
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/u...gtype=Homepage
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04-10-2020, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I too am guilty of cynicism, and friends often mistake this trait of mine as a sign of undue pessimism...even though I keep exclaiming that I am the biggest optimist among them. When things are going along fine, they are all happy and chatty, whereas I am somewhat aloof. But when adversity comes knocking, they are all alarmed...whereas I am always mindful of the silver lining ever-present in the dark clouds. They fail to understand that real optimism is most evident when circumstances become "unfavorable".
This virus has locked me in, sure...but it has also opened other worlds up to me which I had ignored for far too long. I rediscovered my passion for good books...and I've even dared to put a few thoughts down on paper(?!). I've also noticed that my son is much more amusing than I had previously given him credit for being. I have found time for regular exercise...I rediscovered the pleasures of quiet solitude...and I've been reminded of the fragility of our world. I had, perhaps unconsciously, been paying homage to man's misguided notion of having "dominion over nature". |
Reading this made me feel good. Thanks.
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04-10-2020, 10:06 AM
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Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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I thought that was from the Onion when I first opened the link.
I wonder how safe it is to run side by side when a car is coming straight at you at 40 MPH?
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04-10-2020, 10:40 AM
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