US Diplomacy hits an all-time low

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker

Here is what I'm understanding from the Left:


Left: "You can't text mean things to Rocket Man because you'll start WWIII".



Reality: Jong Un may or may not have a single nuclear warhead. He at best, might be able to launch it off his mainland and not kill himself, or his own people. The likelihood of him getting a nuclear warhead to an American target loom at around 0%.


Left: "You need to be mean and firm with Putin and Russia cause they somehow interfered in the election you were elected.".



Reality: You really want to be mean to the guy who holds half the worlds nukes in his possession and can blow us off the map within minutes and actually truly start and end WWIII within minutes?

Reality:

You need to be mean and firm with BOTH.

[horses4courses]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Reality:

You need to be mean and firm with BOTH.

True.
Unless all you want are photo ops.

[PaceAdvantage]

It's weird the same guy went on a rant about the Germany-Russia pipeline thingy just a few days ago. Killed a whole bunch of Russians in Syria as you pointed out numerous times. Kicked 60 something Russian diplomats out of the country. Kept sanctions on (oh yes...he didn't enact the new sanctions...I didn't forget about that, so you don't have to remind me).

But it's not like he's laying down at every turn on Russia.

When both the Obama and McCain campaigns were hacked in 2008, how come there wasn't all this hysteria?

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...hite-house-usa

It's just weird how hysterical everyone is this time around.

I don't even feel like debating all this stuff anymore. It's completely useless.

[davew]

just wait until it gets out that $150 BILLION in US cash was flown there so they could continue their worldwide funding of terrorism..... the chit will hit the fan then.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by horses4courses

True.
Unless all you want are photo ops.

Or really want to bring about some kind of world peace?



Never hurts to talk to people, make it an event, and put them on world notice.



Do Little Rocket Man or Putin have any excuses for being douches going forward?

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

It's weird the same guy went on a rant about the Germany-Russia pipeline thingy just a few days ago. Killed a whole bunch of Russians in Syria as you pointed out numerous times. Kicked 60 something Russian diplomats out of the country. Kept sanctions on (oh yes...he didn't enact the new sanctions...I didn't forget about that, so you don't have to remind me).

But it's not like he's laying down at every turn on Russia.

When both the Obama and McCain campaigns were hacked in 2008, how come there wasn't all this hysteria?

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...hite-house-usa

It's just weird how hysterical everyone is this time around.

I don't even feel like debating all this stuff anymore. It's completely useless.

So...

When the guy has his chance. Mr. Strong-Leader, Tells it like it is... on a world stage to actually call someone out he should we get...

Whatever the **** that was.

I also find it interesting Trump gets credit for killing all those Russians but Obama didn't get any for Bin Laden around here... seems odd.

Most were upset at his spiking of that football.

You're right... it's weird. Talks real tough to all our allies but sure gives high opinion of Putin, Kim, and Xi.

[PaceAdvantage]

Yup, he had nice things to say about Russia when talking about the Germany-Russia deal. lol

And by the way, I never gave any credit to Trump for killing Russians in Syria. Never wrote a thing about it until my reply above. This much I know.

I was actually saddened by the loss of so many of my comrades.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

So...

When the guy has his chance. Mr. Strong-Leader, Tells it like it is... on a world stage to actually call someone out he should we get...

Whatever the **** that was.

What you saw in Helsinki was a president whose presidency has been crippled by the true treasons residing back here in the good ol' US of A.

****in guy doesn't know what to do or say anymore.

He's been accused of conspiring with the Russians since the day he took office. He and his campaign are being investigated officially for this very same crime for almost as long.

Who the hell knows what he should say at this point regarding Putin/Russia.

Say he hops on the bandwagon...starts saying, yeah, there was definitely some bad shit going down...that Putin guy, he's totally guilty...**** that bastard...then the media will turn around and be like "Well, how can you be so sure? It must be because you were in on it. See, we told you he was guilty!"

****ing guy can't win no matter what anymore.

[lamboguy]

now is not the time to come to conclusion's. there is still an investigation going on and that investigation just might vindicate the president. if it doesn't, there are big troubles in river city

[newtothegame]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Reality:

You need to be mean and firm with BOTH.

Hell in the other thread you said "F&^$$^& ignore them" (in regards to N Korea,,,,
Can you please make up your mind

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by newtothegame

Hell in the other thread you said "F&^$$^& ignore them" (in regards to N Korea,,,,
Can you please make up your mind

You really have a hard time don't you?

Yes sanctioning them into the ground while ignoring basically anything they say and do is mean and tough.

"****'em let them starve. They can't eat their weapons."

Isn't mean and tough?

I really don't know how you're so daft other than this weird personal vendetta with me about the issue.

You say ignoring them is what we've been doing and I point out that it ksnt so you go mum again... waiting to make assumptions about my meaning and...!

Here you are again with another off topic post!

Talking about me sure must be better than the oversized oompa loompa we've got in the White House.

[newtothegame]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

You really have a hard time don't you?

Yes sanctioning them into the ground while ignoring basically anything they say and do is mean and tough.

"****'em let them starve. They can't eat their weapons."

Isn't mean and tough?

I really don't know how you're so daft other than this weird personal vendetta with me about the issue.

You say ignoring them is what we've been doing and I point out that it ksnt so you go mum again... waiting to make assumptions about my meaning and...!

Here you are again with another off topic post!

Talking about me sure must be better than the oversized oompa loompa we've got in the White House.

You know, youre right, there is a reason you and I don't "click"....
and it's because of BS like this.

You basically claim everyone else is "moving the target" and reality is, you do it just as well. Difference MR right, is that you do it on the slick and then claim to not have done it by adding a word or two.

There is a HUGE difference between "F*^@#*() ignoring them" and "Sanctioning them into the ground". But you now conveniently add "While" as a justification as if that's what you meant the first time.

You're as phony as they come mr "I am no democrat". Mr I don't hate Trump. You try to play the whole bipartisan and thinking on your own fasad.
But the problem for you is history tells the tale.

Now youre even on here defending Obama...
"I know you all will just blame Obama"

YOU DAM RIGHT!!

You see, you seem to have forgotten that Obama was blaming Bush for the entirety of his administration. So yeah, I am perfectly fine with playing the dame game we have been invited to.

As for me being "daft" in your opinion...I have provided several examples of my thoughts. As I previously said, you just choose to ignore. I don't care really.


Thask…...I might need a reprimand soon...lol
(congrats Gus...well deserved and I couldn't think of many better).

[elysiantraveller]

You keep asking me to explain something I've explained multiple times.

Then when I do it again you go mum and wait for some "ah ha!" gotcha moment.

It's not my fault you aren't actually reading what I'm saying.

Then you launch into some I love Obama tirade and I'm not really a conservative blahn blah...

Whatever man. I'm sure Reagan would have approached that summit the same way Trump did.

I wasn't opposed to meeting with them. It's something different but North Korea is up to the same old game so...

I had no problem with the status quo of sanction and just let them wither.

They already have a nuclear deterrent so there really isn't any other option at this point.

Isolate and ignore.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Stable Genius now says he misspoke in Finland - he believes US intel. The fact that his supporters think he's playing some sort of masterful game of chess, versus bumbling his way through each day is sad. Feel free to support his policies, but please realize he's no stable genius.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike

Stable Genius now says he misspoke in Finland - he believes US intel. The fact that his supporters think he's playing some sort of masterful game of chess, versus bumbling his way through each day is sad. Feel free to support his policies, but please realize he's no stable genius.

Hey...he might be spreading some more "misinformation", in order to confuse his "opposition" even further than he already has. What ReplayRandall would call..."masterful poker tactics".