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09-25-2018, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Please don't mix up conservative, libertarian, republican and Trump.
They are all different things flying under the banner of republican in the same way socialists and "new democrats" under BILL Clinton were under the banner of democrats even though they were miles apart too.
Trump has created a new coalition of republicans that combines blue collar democrats that lost their jobs as part of free trade and regulations, the military, the police and other law enforcement, low tax republicans, non foreign involvement libertarians, and anti open border members of both parties.
It's a NEW party.
That's why people from all over the political map are trying to destroy him.
If you ask is "so and so" a republican or conservative, you aren't asking the right question. The question is how does he feel about trade, the border, relations with Russia, military expansion overseas etc... It doesn't matter what he calls himself. If he's not on board with the new republican party he's trying to destroy Trump.
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Would you agree that the tenets posted in #89 above ARE the principles of the NEW Party..?
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09-26-2018, 12:10 AM
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#92
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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
Would you agree that the tenets posted in #89 above ARE the principles of the NEW Party..?
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100% yes.
In fact, after I made my post I noticed yours and realized I wasted my time because yours was so much more comprehensive. I only left mine because I was stressing that it's a new party.
He's failing badly on the military aspect of it. Military spending is way up, but I do think he's trying to improve relations with some countries and would love to be less involved overseas. It's tough for him politically to improve relations with Russia because of the whole Russia election scam.
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Last edited by classhandicapper; 09-26-2018 at 12:14 AM.
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09-26-2018, 12:14 AM
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#93
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They can't fire him until he has testified before congress a few more times, turn states witness on his fellow ex-workers, and leaked enough stuff so that when he goes, he goes to jail (if he did anything illegal).
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09-26-2018, 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
100% yes.
In fact, after I made my post I noticed yours and realized I wasted my time because yours was so much more comprehensive. I only left mine because I was stressing that it's a new party.
He's failing badly on the military aspect of it. Military spending is way up, but I do think he's trying to improve relations with some countries and would love to be less involved overseas. It's tough for him politically to improve relations with Russia because of the whole Russia election scam.
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Trump is failing badly on the military aspect of it due no doubt to the interests of who I presume to be his controllers: Big oil and transport barons serving the military...
Look at the graph again...See how the red and yellow outlines show either Trump or Clinton associates...start at the bottom “The Power Elite”...notice the yellow outline meaning “Clinton” (Neoliberal)...
...one level up shows the black box labeled Big Oil-Transport-Military-ExxonMobile, Chevron, Koch Industries...notice the red outline...these are Trump areas...
http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics...ep_state.shtml
Now go to this website:
https://fpif.org/the-state-departmen...o-for-big-oil/
“What, then, of his successor Pompeo?
The campaign finance watchdog Opensecrets.org identified Pompeo as the “#1 all time recipient” of money from Koch Industries during his time in Congress. The Koch conglomerate has interests in exploration and drilling, pipelines, trading, refining, and gas supply. So the billionaire Koch brothers who run the business (and a vast GOP fundraising network) have a natural interest in funding climate disinformation, and they do — lavishly.
With Pompeo, they got their money’s worth.“
Now go here:
https://genieoilgas.com/
https://genieoilgas.com/about-us/str...dvisory-board/
Now go here:
http://www.atimes.com/partition-syri...n-heights-oil/
“As mentioned previously in an Asia Times article, in November 2015, Afek Oil and Gas, a subsidiary of the US company Genie Energy, discovered an oil bonanza in the Golan Heights “with the potential of billions of barrels.” Genie Energy, boasting an advisory board studded with former US cabinet officials, managed to obtain exploratory licenses despite opposition from environmental and local groups concerned that drilling could pollute the Golan countryside and the Sea of Galilee below, the source of most of Israel’s drinking water. However, the biggest problems revolve around the issue of sovereignty.”
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Not too tough to figure out Trump’s Foreign policy...and the reason why Pompeo is now on board...it is all about oil. Gee whiz...And this is why Trump now brings up the idea of Sovereignty at the UN as a central point...perhaps we soon will see a push for Sovereignty for Israel of these mineral rights in the occupied/ annexed areas of the Golan and “Northern Ersatz Israel”...ya think...?
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01-09-2019, 08:48 AM
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#95
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some are saying he will be gone in next few weeks.
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01-09-2019, 08:54 AM
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At least his speech yesterday took attention away from the Manafort revelations yesterday.
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01-09-2019, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
At least his speech yesterday took attention away from the Manafort revelations yesterday.
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Tip: Manafort is not Trump.
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01-09-2019, 06:51 PM
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01-09-2019, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by woodtoo
Tip: Manafort is not Trump.
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Remember when Manafort did nothing, there was no collusion between the campaign and Russia, and all of Manafort's crimes are from years ago?
Man... that "No Collusion" thing sure is ringing hollow these days...
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01-09-2019, 07:00 PM
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Talking to a Russian is collusion I forgot. 
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01-09-2019, 07:25 PM
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Talking to a Russian is collusion I forgot. |
Giving the Russian intelligence apparatus internal campaign polling data isn't collusion?
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01-09-2019, 07:31 PM
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#102
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what's the penalty for collusion?
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01-09-2019, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
what's the penalty for collusion?
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Collusion isn't a crime...
Hahaha...
Scrambled eggs.
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01-09-2019, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Collusion isn't a crime...
Hahaha...
Scrambled eggs.
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no shit? well the way liberals talk I figured it must carry the death penalty. So in reality this is just all talk and nothing could ever really come from it?
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01-09-2019, 07:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Remember when Manafort did nothing, there was no collusion between the campaign and Russia, and all of Manafort's crimes are from years ago?
Man... that "No Collusion" thing sure is ringing hollow these days...
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Please stop promulgating FAKE NEWS, ET!
Sean Hannity has effectively debunked those lies.
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