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09-26-2018, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
How about the F.B.I. missing all of this sexual misconduct by Kavanaugh through six security clearances investigations? Inept all the way around.
As far as most federal government appointments I have one word for you "nepotism".
After her sworn admission about her personal knowledge of criminal behavior and her continuing to attend these events, I expect her security clearance will be revoked. Her admitted past behavior indicates very poor judgment and such people should not have access to security issues.
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in the world we live in, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
i am guessing that we won't see any testimony tomorrow. i suspect that Kavanaugh will withdraw before this women gets to testify.
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09-26-2018, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
this Julie Swetncik has a pretty impressive resume. she has worked for the Federal Government in the departments of defense, US Treasury, Irs and has had a justice department clearance.
if she is so mistaken or just an out and out liar, it really doesn't say much for our government.
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You been asleep? We all know the answer to that
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09-26-2018, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Whosonfirst
A week ago, I gave him slightly favorable odds to get confirmed. Looks like he's going down at this point. I'm doubtful there will even be a vote.
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There will be a vote. And if there isn’t or he isn’t confirmed the republicans will absolutely loose the senate and possibly the house
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09-26-2018, 04:47 PM
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Can’t believe McConnell was dump enough to piss around long enough for them to recruit more people to agree to lie like this. He needs to resign
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09-26-2018, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
in the world we live in, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
i am guessing that we won't see any testimony tomorrow. i suspect that Kavanaugh will withdraw before this women gets to testify.
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I am not suggesting two wrongs make a right. Only expanding on your comment about the people working for the government.
I don't believe this woman is an outright liar. She tried to couch her sworn statement to portray guilt by association, without an outright lie about Kavanaugh participating in her alleged rape.
I believe, she is a foot soldier who is paying back the people she owes for the favors she received to advance her governmental career.
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09-26-2018, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
How about the F.B.I. missing all of this sexual misconduct by Kavanaugh through six security clearances investigations? Inept all the way around.
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What misconduct did they miss? He had never been charged with anything, let alone found guilty. The FBI does a background check, they don't go looking for crimes that had never been reported or investigated. That's not their job.
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09-26-2018, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
There will be a vote. And if there isn’t or he isn’t confirmed the republicans will absolutely loose the senate and possibly the house
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Remember none of the other alleged victims made a statement under oath and none of their statements contained provable facts. It is a sound strategy to wait for a statement under oath, with potentially provable facts, prior to the vote.
This woman actually proves Kavanaugh did not participate in her allege rape. As thask said just being in the same space does not prove guilt. The only thing her statement proves, if true, is she saw Kavanaugh at the same place, as she.
Her sworn statement does not prove Kavanaugh targeted woman, since she could not know his state of mind. The only way she would have known Kavanaugh's state of mind is if Kavanaugh personally told her about his plans to drug and rape innocent woman.
What does that tell you, if she knew before hand about Kavanaugh's plan to perform serial rape?
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09-26-2018, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
this Julie Swetncik has a pretty impressive resume. she has worked for the Federal Government in the departments of defense, US Treasury, Irs and has had a justice department clearance.
if she is so mistaken or just an out and out liar, it really doesn't say much for our government.
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You mean you actually had a high opinion of our government?
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09-26-2018, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
What misconduct did they miss? He had never been charged with anything, let alone found guilty. The FBI does a background check, they don't go looking for crimes that had never been reported or investigated. That's not their job.
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By the dems producing all of these witnesses about Kavanugh's sexual misconduct, the F.B.I missed a lot of character witnesses.
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09-26-2018, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
How about the F.B.I. missing all of this sexual misconduct by Kavanaugh through six security clearances investigations? Inept all the way around.
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I'm so glad you have broached this aspect of this circus. Isn't the FBI supposed to be the premier law enforcement and investigative agency in the entire universe -- to which no other agency on this planet can hold a candle/
OR...OR could it be that Mr. K is truly The Wizard of Smarts? Could it be that Kavanaugh is so intelligent, that his intellect is so superior to everyone else's, that he has managed to find a way to completely conceal his extremely sordid past from all prying eyes? And if he's this smart, then I say he's smart enough to sit on the Supreme Court. His advanced, superior intellect alone qualifies him. After all....everyone wants smart people on the Supreme Court, right?
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09-26-2018, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
By the dems producing all of these witnesses about Kavanugh's sexual misconduct, the F.B.I missed a lot of character witnesses.
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It is not the FBI's job to produce character witnesses. And the Dems know that:
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... a flashback from the Clarence Thomas hearings, who also faced allegations of sexual misconduct from Anita Hill. Thomas was eventually confirmed, but by a razor thin margin. There was an FBI report, but then-Senate Committee chair Joe Biden (D-DE) said it was worthless to cite. Why?
“FBI explicitly does not, in this or any other case, reach a conclusion, period. Period,” said Biden at the time.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...cases-n2522589
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09-26-2018, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
By the dems producing all of these witnesses about Kavanugh's sexual misconduct, the F.B.I missed a lot of character witnesses.
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You think?
But again, our Mr. K has outsmarted the feds by producing 200 female character witnesses who have spoken very highly of him.
This guy is pure, unadulterated genius. Even I am envious of him.
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09-26-2018, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
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What do you think a security clearance investigation entails? Character is an important part of the clearance check.
BTW I agree with uncle Joe, F.B.I. reports can't be relied on for she said, he said cases.
However, the F.B.I. should be relied on to say there may be problems with a person's past actions. If what these woman say is true, the F.B.I. did not do a competent job on either Kavanaugh's or his latest accuser's security clearance investigations.
How do you allow a person, like Swetnick, who admits continually attending rape parties and while actually witnessing these rapes have a sensitive security clearance?
Last edited by Show Me the Wire; 09-26-2018 at 05:32 PM.
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09-26-2018, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
Remember none of the other alleged victims made a statement under oath and none of their statements contained provable facts. It is a sound strategy to wait for a statement under oath, with potentially provable facts, prior to the vote.
This woman actually proves Kavanaugh did not participate in her allege rape. As thask said just being in the same space does not prove guilt. The only thing her statement proves, if true, is she saw Kavanaugh at the same place, as she.
Her sworn statement does not prove Kavanaugh targeted woman, since she could not know his state of mind. The only way she would have known Kavanaugh's state of mind is if Kavanaugh personally told her about his plans to drug and rape innocent woman.
What does that tell you, if she knew before hand about Kavanaugh's plan to perform serial rape?
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I question whether there were any facts involved at all
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09-26-2018, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chadk66
I question whether there were any facts involved at all
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Could you imagine if this sworn statement came out after the vote, especially if the senate relied on the lack of sworn testimony? The dems would have a field day, claiming the repubs forced the vote to prevent the possibility of sworn testimony facts coming to light. Chuck and Nancy would be calling for impeachment of a sitting justice.
It is much better to have this sworn statement, now.
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