Raid on Cohen

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

That would be the end of his presidency.

Said for the millionth time since he strolled down that escalator.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Said for the millionth time since he strolled down that escalator.

If you effectively purge one branch of government out of self-preservation what else is it but a dictatorship?

It's certainly not a presidency.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

If you effectively purge one branch of government out of self-preservation what else is it but a dictatorship?

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It depends on who does it.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith

It depends on who does it.

Certainly does.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Not if it constitutes an illegal campaign contribution.

Cohen's public comments thus far are talking enough to warrant this stuff. The man truly is an idiot. Stevie Wonder could connect those dots. If he is brought in Trump is leveraged and compromised.

Why else would he meltdown like this?

If they are looking for the illegal Campaign contribution, they don’t need the warrant. The guy has admitted he paid her. Nothing to search for.

The media says he committed bank fraud to pay for it.

Either way they violated attorney client privilege. Just my opine....

[Tom]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller View Post
If you effectively purge one branch of government out of self-preservation what else is it but a dictatorship?

We survived Herr 0bama.

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Trump should blanket pardon anyone involved in his campaign for all crimes committed between the day he announced his candidacy until Inauguration Day. Fire Mueller, immediately, go on TV and announce he has ended the witch hunt against him, his staff and his family. Ask his supporters to stick with him and get back to work.

So basically he will say. You work for me, committ any crime you want, I will pardon you.

Federal election laws?

Bank and wire fraud?

They are meaningless crimes.

Allan

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

If they are looking for the illegal Campaign contribution, they don’t need the warrant. The guy has admitted he paid her. Nothing to search for.

The media says he committed bank fraud to pay for it.

Either way they violated attorney client privilege. Just my opine....

If he used a bank loan, then he only committed bank fraud if he lied to the bank about why he needed a loan. Sometimes they do not ask. If he had a HELOC (home equity line of credit), then he wasn't asked any questions, and therefore did nothing wrong. I would imagine at his pay rate that he handles all important conversations like this with his clientele off the record for just such an occasion.

Of course, they'll get him for something he's done. Each of us commits a crime every day without knowledge. At least he has a friend with a pardon pen.

[tucker6]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

So basically he will say. You work for me, committ any crime you want, I will pardon you.

Federal election laws?

Bank and wire fraud?

They are meaningless crimes.

Allan

I wish you were so worked up about democratic crimes. Hillary, Wasserman, Sanders, etc...

[biggestal99]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

If they are looking for the illegal Campaign contribution, they don’t need the warrant. The guy has admitted he paid her. Nothing to search for.

The media says he committed bank fraud to pay for it.

Either way they violated attorney client privilege. Just my opine....

How can it violate attorney client privilege when Cohen himself said he never talked to Trump about the settlement.

And its not the media who signed off on the search warrant a judge did.

Its not the media's fault that Cohen stuff got seized.

He, himself alone, took out a line of credit against his house, The media did not

He, himself alone, Created a Delaware LLC to ease the payment of hush money to stormy daniels. The media did not.

He, himself alone, signed the NDA. The media did not.

and finally he, himself alone self admittedly paid a porn star hush money to help a good friend. The media did not

you are blaming the messenger, when the person who did all this stuff gets a pass.

Allan

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

So basically he will say. You work for me, committ any crime you want, I will pardon you.

Federal election laws?

Bank and wire fraud?

They are meaningless crimes.

Allan

I specified dates that are well behind us. And you come up with this crap?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by biggestal99

So basically he will say. You work for me, committ any crime you want, I will pardon you.

Federal election laws?

Bank and wire fraud?

They are meaningless crimes.

Allan

Gee, you must be thinking about Billy Boy's "chance" meeting on the tarmack, just before Comey looked the other way on Hillary.

And of course the entire Clinton family history.

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

They say it amounts to an illegal campaign contribution by Cohen...since he spent money to benefit Trump and his chances of winning the election by buying her silence. And he spent way over the individual limit when paying Ms. Daniels.

snowballs chance in hell he is ever convicted of that

[chadk66]

I can't imagine Cohen having to go to the bank for 130K aside from his own checking account.

[davew]

Originally Posted by Tom

We survived Herr 0bama.

But many of his appointed operatives are still in place - especially the top levels of the Federal Bureau Investigation of republicans and Department of inJustice.