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09-16-2021, 01:28 PM
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#286
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
To inject the horse with an amount of the drug and during a time period that was likely to produce a positive would be career suicide. I refuse to believe he's that crazy.
But just for discussion's sake, let's assume he did inject the horse. It would make sense to do it far enough away from the race (but within the 14 days) so he had a high probability of a negative test. There has to be a big margin of safety built into that 14 days.
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I'd have to think vets know the probabilities. He might have gambled and lost. Obviously, this is all speculation since I have no way of knowing.
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Yes, the vets do know the probabilites. After the Gamine Ky Oaks positive of Betamethason which the vets showed given outside the 14 day guideline, you are right that it would be a career suicide to even think about injecting remotely close to the 14 days. And the cream theory is hard to understand because there are smart horsemen in that shedrow..
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09-16-2021, 01:40 PM
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#287
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
I can't. My position is I don't care. In other sports, they don't listen to the cheaters, they just say, "positive test, you're suspended".
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Uh, in other sports, the athletes know the rules.
Comparing such things is pure insanity.
And if indeed you didn't care, then your every response on the topic wouldn't be penned with significant bias.
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09-16-2021, 06:54 PM
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#288
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AskinHaskin
Uh, in other sports, the athletes know the rules.
Comparing such things is pure insanity.
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Uh, the horses may not "know the rules"...but their caretakers surely do.
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09-16-2021, 07:56 PM
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#289
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AskinHaskin
Uh, in other sports, the athletes know the rules.
Comparing such things is pure insanity.
And if indeed you didn't care, then your every response on the topic wouldn't be penned with significant bias.
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In this sport, the athletes didn't consent to anything. That point cuts the other way.
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09-18-2021, 06:56 PM
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#291
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Location: Austin, Tx
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Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
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Zero chance Baffert is excluded. He'll be allowed to run. This review is just for show, nothing more.
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09-18-2021, 07:00 PM
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#292
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Track Phantom
Zero chance Baffert is excluded. He'll be allowed to run. This review is just for show, nothing more.
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If it's for show then it makes the Breeders Cup look a lot worse than having no meeting at all and let him run
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09-18-2021, 07:18 PM
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#293
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
If it's for show then it makes the Breeders Cup look a lot worse than having no meeting at all and let him run
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I'd be seriously surprised if they ban him.
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09-19-2021, 09:09 AM
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Why do I get the feeling the process in KY won’t be done before the Breeder’s Cup?
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09-21-2021, 01:30 PM
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#295
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Baffert scratched Medina Spirit from the PA Derby. It seems like he's going to stay in CA and point towards the Awesome Again.
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09-21-2021, 03:43 PM
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#296
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
Baffert scratched Medina Spirit from the PA Derby. It seems like he's going to stay in CA and point towards the Awesome Again.
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Didn't like post 9, apparently.
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09-21-2021, 05:52 PM
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#297
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
Didn't like post 9, apparently.
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LOL, yeah, I'm sure that is it.
He also scratched his filly from the Cotillion.
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09-21-2021, 05:53 PM
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#298
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Location: toga
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
Didn't like post 9, apparently.
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If that’s the reason…….. it’s not the reason. That horse ran a hole in the wind last out. Now he’s ducking a couple horses that are really in fine form. Is this too soon to run again? Did the wheels fall off? With everything going on surrounding this horse, one really has to wonder.
As for the Breeders Cup. I would bet he’s in. Of course, I have no way of knowing. But he pulls a lot of weight out there. Why did it take a Derby incident to really come down hard? I mean, people can call me a hater all they want. There’s no denying with everything that’s gone on and the history of that barn that blind eyes were not given. That’s what gets me about fanatical defenders. They sit there and act like this is the first time that he’s been called to question. Oh, they’re railroading him. C’mon wake up and smell the coffee. Ground control to Major Tom…… cause you in outer space.
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09-21-2021, 06:15 PM
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#299
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Medina Spirit "ran a hole in the wind" last time?
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09-21-2021, 07:27 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the little guy
Medina Spirit "ran a hole in the wind" last time?
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It was a very calm day in the San Diego area.
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