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Old 03-05-2016, 08:01 PM   #1
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Mike Smith Seattle Serenade.

He pulled up the 4/5 favorite, reporting on tvg there's nothing wrong with the horse? Anyone know what happened here? Broken equipment?
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:09 PM   #2
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He pulled up the 4/5 favorite, reporting on tvg there's nothing wrong with the horse? Anyone know what happened here? Broken equipment?
The horse, owner, trainer, and jockey all wanted to believe in your conspiracy theory.
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:34 PM   #3
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He pulled up the 4/5 favorite, reporting on tvg there's nothing wrong with the horse? Anyone know what happened here? Broken equipment?
SEATTLE SERENADE dueled between horses then drifted out while being pulled up on the backstretch and was vanned off
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:45 PM   #4
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The horse didn't appear to take a bad step or anything, just all of a sudden Mike starts pulling him up. All reports after say the horse is fine and went right back to the Hollendorfer barn after being vanned off.

I keep checking for a head-on replay(at rtn and calracing) to see what happened if anything, there is one available for every other race today EXCEPT that race.

A lot of money bet involved that horse, the least they could do is not make it look suspicious.
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:52 PM   #5
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The horse didn't appear to take a bad step or anything, just all of a sudden Mike starts pulling him up. All reports after say the horse is fine and went right back to the Hollendorfer barn after being vanned off.

I keep checking for a head-on replay(at rtn and calracing) to see what happened if anything, there is one available for every other race today EXCEPT that race.

A lot of money bet involved that horse, the least they could do is not make it look suspicious.
If you watched calracing.com replays as often as I do, you'd notice there are a number of races, all with something or other questionable occurring, that they don't provide head-ons for. It's maddening. Questionable inquiry in the stretch....no head on replay. Funky looking scramble out of the gate....no head on replay. It's stupid. We're using these replays to handicap their product, not to investigate their mistakes. Makes it look like they don't want to address their mistakes, or explain the "tough ones".
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:57 PM   #6
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If you watched calracing.com replays as often as I do, you'd notice there are a number of races, all with something or other questionable occurring, that they don't provide head-ons for. It's maddening. Questionable inquiry in the stretch....no head on replay. Funky looking scramble out of the gate....no head on replay. It's stupid. We're using these replays to handicap their product, not to investigate their mistakes. Makes it look like they don't want to address their mistakes, or explain the "tough ones".
What a coin KI DINKY. Twin spires has all head ons, just that one not available.

This game is a joke.

Edit: NYRA doesn't have it either. Neither does the Racetrack Network. So maybe CALI blocked it to all suppliers of replays?

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@Mpuhich reporting that Seattle Serenade pulled up - R8 @santaanitapark fractured a pastern and Dr Macilwraith will operate Mon @WatchXBTV
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@Mpuhich reporting that Seattle Serenade pulled up - R8 @santaanitapark fractured a pastern and Dr Macilwraith will operate Mon @WatchXBTV
IT looked a lot worse.. thought for sure horse was gonna end up ALPO
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The minute a jock pulls a horse up and they say the horse is alright there everyone goes with the conspiracy theory. We can't just wait till the next day or that night to give the benefit of the doubt.

Did y'all really think Mike Smith would pull the horse up on purpose ?
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Old 03-05-2016, 11:37 PM   #10
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The minute a jock pulls a horse up and they say the horse is alright there everyone goes with the conspiracy theory. We can't just wait till the next day or that night to give the benefit of the doubt.

Did y'all really think Mike Smith would pull the horse up on purpose ?
No, not Mike Smith, he rides for the fans, he doesn't play trainer like some other Guys.
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Old 03-06-2016, 01:05 AM   #11
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No, not Mike Smith, he rides for the fans, he doesn't play trainer like some other Guys.
We all remember your tirade over Smith and Shared Belief.
Enough.

I watched 15-20 races today.
Saw 2 breakdowns, with at least one of them fatal.
That deceased horse was having his third race in 5 weeks,
but that's another story.

There is no "check engine" light when you're riding a horse
at speed, and something appears to be going wrong.
The jockey who puts his, and the horse's, safety first
is to be commended, not vilified. Some people, bettors
in particular, need to realize this - even if it means
tearing up a few extra tickets.
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Old 03-06-2016, 01:13 AM   #12
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We all remember your tirade over Smith and Shared Belief.
Enough.

I watched 15-20 races today.
Saw 2 breakdowns, with at least one of them fatal.
That deceased horse was having his third race in 5 weeks,
but that's another story.

There is no "check engine" light when you're riding a horse
at speed, and something appears to be going wrong.
The jockey who puts his, and the horse's, safety first
is to be commended, not vilified. Some people, bettors
in particular, need to realize this - even if it means
tearing up a few extra tickets.

I agree, if the horse is injured, pull him up. It's up to the judges to punish jocks who pull up horses who have nothing wrong with them. Tvg reported this horse was ok.
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Old 03-06-2016, 01:18 AM   #13
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I agree, if the horse is injured, pull him up. It's up to the judges to punish jocks who pull up horses who have nothing wrong with them. Tvg reported this horse was ok.
SRU, read post #7.....
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Old 03-06-2016, 01:36 AM   #14
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SRU, read post #7.....
I saw that.
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Old 03-06-2016, 01:51 AM   #15
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I agree, if the horse is injured, pull him up. It's up to the judges to punish jocks who pull up horses who have nothing wrong with them. Tvg reported this horse was ok.
Funny, I don't recall Kent D being punished for pulling up Big Brown in the Belmont a few years ago and the horse had nothing wrong with him
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