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Old 11-10-2020, 09:49 PM   #7501
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Joe has a new coronavirus team, Donald's team has coronavirus!
Don't worry though, Bidens advisor wants to send the vaccine to others countries before it is given to every one here.......
Nice team there champ!!
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Old 11-10-2020, 09:55 PM   #7502
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Don't worry though, Bidens advisor wants to send the vaccine to others countries before it is given to every one here.......
Nice team there champ!!
One has to figure he owes China.
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Old 11-10-2020, 10:24 PM   #7503
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Don't worry though, Bidens advisor wants to send the vaccine to others countries before it is given to every one here.......
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Old 11-10-2020, 11:19 PM   #7504
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One has to figure he owes China.
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Old 11-11-2020, 12:29 AM   #7505
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Old 11-11-2020, 03:49 AM   #7506
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for those that think that the death rate is small, check out the city morgues in the State of Texas.. https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07...gues-capacity/
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Old 11-11-2020, 04:21 AM   #7507
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for those that think that the death rate is small, check out the city morgues in the State of Texas.. https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07...gues-capacity/
Don’t know about Texas but the California death toll is dropping dramatically. Infections are going up as death rates are coming down. As the medical community learns more and more about this disease they’re getting smarter in combating it.
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Old 11-11-2020, 05:30 AM   #7508
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America First baby...

The vaccine is "Pfizer-BioNTech’s mRNA vaccine".

It's the German company, BioNTech, who owns the proprietary mRNA technology, is the market authorization holder worldwide and who holds all trademarks the potential product.

I remember when that agreement was made back in March, Pfizer was a good match because they're very large, and they had the development, regulatory and commercial manufacturing capabilities that BioNTech needed to go with their mRNA vaccine technology and expertise.

Biontech was able to act immediately because they got 375 million euros from the coffers of a federal research program back in January. The German state is also a partner of the company and its now valued @about 20x of Lufthansa airlines.

So.....they beat private enterprise---- social democracy in action. The German company is the one that developed the whole pathbreaking mRnA technology. And their nation will also have it's coffers filled again to make more such grants available.

Germany also has a federal pandemic plan. Schott (owned by Carl Zeiss) is producing 1 billion glass vials....they never skipped a beat even during the worst time when covid was hitting. (They are actually the KEY to the whole covid-19 vaccine supply.....w/out the glass vials you don't have a way to distribute.) They also kept their workers safe.

And in addition, Gerresheimer and Stevanato Group who also manufacture boscillite glass in Germany, are also ramping up. ""The virus is not holding back at the German border, nor at the US or the Chinese or Indian border," Stöcker told DW. "People realize that it's a global problem and that we need a global answer to it." They believe in working together:
https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19-vacci...any/a-54975715

Read other articles. Refrigerators from Linde will be used for 60 centers in Germany which are set to -70 Celsius. The centers can be set up within 5 days. 300,000 people can be vaccinated per day.

Again, Social Democracy in action. A PM who believes in science.


At any rate, even though things have been chaotic in 2020, I wouldn't worry too much about dearth of vacccines here. You are manufacturing a fear that has no basis. There are about two dozen candidates out there and from what I've read, they all target the same spike this one does. So the odds we'll be knee deep in different vaccines in 1/2 to 3/4 of a year. Several don't need anything more challenging than a good refrigerator and are also based on that same messenger-RNA which the German company invented.

I guess I don't really understand the partisan slant you're giving this. Nothing could be further from the truth and you really should inform yourself by reading more widely.

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Have a few REAL Doctor friends and customers....the "OLD" cliche saying about vaccines is often touted....Don't BE first...
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Old 11-11-2020, 07:56 AM   #7510
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So.....they beat private enterprise---- social democracy in action.

Again, Social Democracy in action. A PM who believes in science.


I guess I don't really understand the partisan slant you're giving this.
Double lulz

Please keep telling us your a neutral observer. Triple lulz.
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Old 11-11-2020, 08:02 AM   #7511
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Several don't need anything more challenging than a good refrigerator and are also based on that same messenger-RNA which the German company invented.
And several, including Novavax, are based on older, tried and true, methodology to attack the spike protein. An American company that's thinking globally.
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Old 11-11-2020, 08:27 AM   #7512
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for those that think that the death rate is small, check out the city morgues in the State of Texas.. https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07...gues-capacity/
You realize that article is four months old? Texas has about 1/3 to 1/2 the death rate of NJ, NY, & MASS. And it's doing better than here in Pa.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-us-by-state/
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Old 11-11-2020, 08:36 AM   #7513
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You realize that article is four months old? Texas has about 1/3 to 1/2 the death rate of NJ, NY, & MASS. And it's doing better than here in Pa.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-us-by-state/
Considering that the actual infection rate is 8-12 times higher than known infections according to many studies, the actual death rate is on par with the flu. Coronavirus is not any more deadly than the flu. The problem is that coronavirus is much more contagious than the flu and therefore the raw numbers are much higher. How do you stop a contagion? You don't stop it, which is why every country despite their method of virus suppression is seeing the same spikes and the same amplitudes. Our thought process while waiting for a vaccine should be similar to a doctor's oath, "first, do no harm". Don't destroy the economy and add to the suicide and overdose rates by creating artificial barriers that don't work. That's doing harm without any benefit as seen in numerous studies.

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Old 11-11-2020, 09:50 AM   #7514
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This aligns pretty well with what I've heard from some conversations I've had with Pfizer people.

Most of the R&D has been done overseas while here they are already producing and ramping up production capacity.

One Exec manages a production team said they were hoping to bring online a new line that would triple production capacity sometime this month.
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Old 11-11-2020, 09:50 AM   #7515
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Someone has to turn that into a hat meme and flood twitter and facebook just for the laughs.
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