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09-10-2020, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jay68802
And again, what did Pelosi, Biden, and other Dem leaders do?
A. They had no plan, and did nothing.
B. They had no plan, and did not care to do anything.
C. Fauci was positive this would happen, and was in the driver's seat on this.
Easy for a lot of people to slam Trump on this with hindsight.
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they bitch and moaned about his xenophobic travel ban to China, the demanded ventilators and PPE that they did not have because they sold from storage, and they ranted about the predictions of millions dying.
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09-10-2020, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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So Fauci, in a qualified response said, don’t worry “right now;” “you need to take it seriously;” and although “this is not a major threat,” keep an ear open to the CDC and Homeland Security.
And in the Catsimatidis interview18/26/2020
https://soundcloud.com/john-catsimat...-fauci-1-26-20
On Jan. 26, Fauci gave an interview to John Catsimatidis, a syndicated radio host in New York. “What can you tell the American people about what’s been going on?” Catsimatidis asked. “Should they be scared?”
“I don’t think so,” Fauci said. “The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It’s a very, very low risk to the United States, but it’s something we, as public health officials, need to take very seriously.”
But Fauci also twice described the virus as “an evolving situation,” and said, “Every day, we have to look at it very carefully.”
Just like Biden warned.
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Last edited by hcap; 09-10-2020 at 02:42 PM.
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09-10-2020, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryBoyle
There seems to be a lot of confusion about why Trump is getting or should be getting shit for these interviews. It's not a question of "did Trump accurately estimate how severe this will be". This pandemic was and is something unseen recently and an almost impossible situation to get "right". Simply understimating the severity at the start is forgivable (at least to me). What's horribly wrong in this situation is that Trump admitted that he knew how bad it was yet decided to downplay it. Perhaps he was worried about the stock market. Perhaps he was worried about panic (LUL). Whatever it was, it was a horrible decision with horrible consequences. And the most unforgivable part is that once he knew, he doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down on "it's no big deal" or "it's in the rearview".
It's not a question of did he or did he not know. It's a question of what he did once he did know.
FWIW, you all go to great lengths to assign blame to others when he f's up, yet you and he want us to think he's the only person capable to handle the presidency...fascinating. The buck stops with him..sometimes?
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What he did was quite a lot. Built a hospital for NY. Got increased manufacturing of ventilators and PPE quickly. Stopped incoming flights from China and then Europe. Certainly acted like somebody who didn't care.
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09-10-2020, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryBoyle
Is this a trick question? By his own admission...
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A poor choice of words, on his part. "I think" would have been better. At the point in time of that discussion with Woodward, he could not possibly have known for sure what was to come and, therefore, didn't go public with his gut feeling. Same for Woodward...
Give it a rest! If Biden were in office NOW, Off Topic would probably be a defunct forum...maybe the whole PA site, as well. Read up on his so-thought better ideas, at the time. While you're at it, check out Cuomo's birdbrain ideas, as well. Keep informed!
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09-10-2020, 03:17 PM
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09-10-2020, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hcap
So Fauci, in a qualified response said, don’t worry “right now;” “you need to take it seriously;” and although “this is not a major threat,” keep an ear open to the CDC and Homeland Security.
And in the Catsimatidis interview18/26/2020
https://soundcloud.com/john-catsimat...-fauci-1-26-20
On Jan. 26, Fauci gave an interview to John Catsimatidis, a syndicated radio host in New York. “What can you tell the American people about what’s been going on?” Catsimatidis asked. “Should they be scared?”
“I don’t think so,” Fauci said. “The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It’s a very, very low risk to the United States, but it’s something we, as public health officials, need to take very seriously.”
But Fauci also twice described the virus as “an evolving situation,” and said, “Every day, we have to look at it very carefully.”
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09-10-2020, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryBoyle
BLM thread that's added to every day here. Trump's entire 2020 platform is "only I can fix the lawlessness". You're panicking
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The Law and order is not working for trump.
Time to reach for another scary rabbit out of his hat.
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09-10-2020, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC
What he did was quite a lot. Built a hospital for NY. Got increased manufacturing of ventilators and PPE quickly. Stopped incoming flights from China and then Europe. Certainly acted like somebody who didn't care.
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Downplayed the virus from the get go in his public statements.
Poof it will magically disappear
Knowing full well it would not.
He lied though his teeth.
Allan
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09-10-2020, 04:52 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
Downplayed the virus from the get go in his public statements.
Poof it will magically disappear
Knowing full well it would not.
He lied though his teeth.
Allan
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09-10-2020, 04:59 PM
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Just another Facist
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
Downplayed the virus from the get go in his public statements.
Poof it will magically disappear
Knowing full well it would not.
He lied though his teeth.
Allan
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You are a despicable person.
He got hoodwinked by Fauci and crew..... and people like you
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09-10-2020, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
You are a despicable person.
He got hoodwinked by Fauci and crew..... and people like you
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I’m despicable and Trump is a great American.
Look I downplayed it too early.
But didn’t know what trump knew.
Trump one hundred percent knew that covid was bad
But downplayed it as not to cause panic. Lol.
How bout giving the American people the straight dope.
We can handle the truth.
Allan
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09-10-2020, 05:13 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by jimmyb
Think we ought to bring leucotomy back?
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I thing we should think about LOBOTOMY for this nutcase.
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09-10-2020, 05:21 PM
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PA Steward
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Originally Posted by biggestal99
I’m despicable and Trump is a great American.
Look I downplayed it too early.
But didn’t know what trump knew.
Trump one hundred percent knew that covid was bad
But downplayed it as not to cause panic. Lol.
How bout giving the American people the straight dope.
We can handle the truth.
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Wait...Trump didn't want to cause a panic?
Didn't someone just write Trump is all about causing fear and panic?
I'm confused... 
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09-10-2020, 05:24 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by JerryBoyle
PA, you've put yourself in quite the tough position. On the one hand, you've decided to believe anything and everything Trump & friends tell you. On the other, you've decided that COVID isn't dangerous. Now you have Trump *ON TAPE* months ago admitting COVID is in fact dangerous. Your choices are to recognize that the man you hold sacred maybe doesn't have your best interests at heart, or the disease you've downplayed for months is actually a problem.
Incidentally, this is the problem with treating a grifter as if he's a god. At some point you'll find out he's sold you a bill of goods, and you're left looking a fool. The irony is that for those of us who recognize that Trump is an idiot, the warnings from scientists were heeded and precautions were taken. It's his ardent supporters who he most endangered (see Mr Cain).
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Nice post, even though most of it is 100% wrong.
What you Never-Trumper zombies fail to grasp is we are supporting Trump because he has DELIVERED since taking office. Economy, foreign policy- the man has done an excellent job.
MUCH BETTER THAN THE IDIOT RACIST KENYAN DID.
WE are focusing on the only thing that matters - PERFORMANCE.
YOU guys are so fixated on tweets and what he says you have totally lost contact with reality.
Biden was AGAINST the travel bans from China AND Europe.
He would have shut down the economy totally and NOT given the decision to the various governors. And it would still be shut down.
So by his own words, BIDEN WOULD HAVE DONE MUCH WORSE THAN TRUMP DID on the virus, No matter what you cheerleaders are brainwashed into believing.
I find it ironic what YOU claim to know an idiot when you see one, but follow hcap's reasoning..... 
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09-10-2020, 05:29 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by JerryBoyle
His entire platform is based on panic. If you're voting for him, you're afraid and panicking...
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You seem so proud to be so ignorant.
Rational people are HAPPY with his performance so far and want 4 more years. Your accusations are just plain STUPID. YOU don't like him so WE are scared and panicking? You are a POMPOUS ASS with that attitude.
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