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Old 04-22-2020, 12:36 PM   #4606
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Listen up, Bonehead -- one last time: The problem of Good and Evil was "reconciled" at the Cross of Christ -- where mercy and justice both met and kissed -- where God's love for his elect saints and His justice for sinners also intersected. This is why it is written that God is just AND the justifier of all those who have faith in his Son (Rom 3:26).

I have explained this to you many times. But I can't make you understand it. But meanwhile, stuff your false dilemma up your nose.
Circular bullshit. You can't make anyone understand it unless you beat them senseless over their heads with your inane absurd proclamations torturing their common sense while insulting their intelligence.

Telling us Jesus said it was ok to cause innocents to suffer unmaintainablee pain, destroys you claim to be, a or ever have been a Christian. Or human!!

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5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

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was a Christian. You are a big fat pompous ass

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Old 04-22-2020, 01:02 PM   #4607
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Circular bullshit. You can't make anyone understand it unless you beat them senseless over their heads with your inane absurd proclamations torturing their common sense while insulting their intelligence.

Telling us Jesus said it was ok to cause innocents to suffer unmaintainablee pain, destroys you claim to be, a or ever have been a Christian. Or human!!
You're lying again. I never said what you claim. Your specific question had to do with how we could reconcile the existence of evil in this world with a Good God. I answered the question. It was RECONCILED at the Cross of Christ.

2 Cor 5:18-19
18 All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: 19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.
NIV

God reconciled himself to His people, showing clearly that he can be merciful to his elect but not at the expense of justice. In the same manner, he demonstrates his infinite love toward his elect in saving them, but again, not at the expense of justice. He did not forego justice to manifest his love, mercy and grace toward his people. Likewise, he did not forego his righteous indignation, wrath and hatred toward unrepentant sinners at the expense of his infinite love. Herein is the infinite Wisdom of God!
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Old 04-22-2020, 01:33 PM   #4608
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You're lying again. I never said what you claim. Your specific question had to do with how we could reconcile the existence of evil in this world with a Good God. I answered the question. It was RECONCILED at the Cross of Christ.
How can you reconcile evil, the horrendous pain and suffering of a young innocent child, with a loving Jesus by telling us it will all work out in the end, and no biggie, and it was perfectly fine for the child to suffer?

You don't have children. I am beginning to think you have disqualified yourself fro judging these matters

IMO, reconcile your Christianity, "..... first.....before claiming Jesus said it was just "hunky dory" for an inniocent child to undergo such horror, and that somehow reconciles your contradictory awful inhuman fanatical philosophy.

I am not the one lying.
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How can you reconcile evil, the horrendous pain and suffering of a young innocent child, with a loving Jesus by telling us it will all work out in the end, and no biggie, and it was perfectly fine for the child to suffer?

You don't have children. I am beginning to think you have disqualified yourself fro judging these matters

IMO, reconcile your Christianity, "..... first.....before claiming Jesus said it was just "hunky dory" for an inniocent child to undergo such horror, and that somehow reconciles your contradictory awful inhuman fanatical philosophy.

I am not the one lying.
You are lying. Lying through your teeth. I never said what you claim I did about Jesus. Quote me where I said that. Prove your claim that is bolded above. You can't, so you're lying.

You truly march to the drumbeat of your Father of Lies.
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Old 04-22-2020, 01:58 PM   #4610
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You are lying. Lying through your teeth. I never said what you claim I did about Jesus. Quote me where I said that. Prove your claim that is bolded above. You can't, so you're lying.

You truly march to the drumbeat of your Father of Lies.
Cut the crap you vile asshole. You just told us.....

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Listen up, Bonehead -- one last time: The problem of Good and Evil was "reconciled" at the Cross of Christ -- where mercy and justice both met and kissed -- where God's love for his elect saints and His justice for sinners also intersected. This is why it is written that God is just AND the justifier of all those who have faith in his Son (Rom 3:26).

I have explained this to you many times. But I can't make you understand it. But meanwhile, stuff your false dilemma up your nose.
You are lying obviously denying you said what you said. "Good and Evil was "reconciled" at the Cross of Christ ...where mercy and justice both met and kissed -- where God's love for his elect saints and His justice for sinners also intersected"

Reconciliation, or knee-jerking slack-jawed horse shit. THERE IS NO F**KING JUSTICE IN A WORM EATING A LITTLE GIRL'S EYE OUT.

Nor any f***ing mercy!!!

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Kiss my ass you vile despicable lunatic
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Old 04-22-2020, 03:21 PM   #4611
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Cut the crap you vile asshole. You just told us.....



You are lying obviously denying you said what you said. "Good and Evil was "reconciled" at the Cross of Christ ...where mercy and justice both met and kissed -- where God's love for his elect saints and His justice for sinners also intersected"

Reconciliation, or knee-jerking slack-jawed horse shit. THERE IS NO F**KING JUSTICE IN A WORM EATING A LITTLE GIRL'S EYE OUT.

Nor any f***ing mercy!!!



Kiss my ass you vile despicable lunatic
But you said above, you liar, was not what you claimed you said in your previous two posts.

And there is justice or mercy with the African girl, as presented in my three biblical scenarios, which you categorically reject even though two of those scenarios had positive eternal outcomes for the girl! In either of those first two scenarios, mercy would have been demonstrated toward the girl without God compromising his justice due to the atoning work of Christ on the Cross!

In the third scenario, where the girl reaches the age of accountability, yet either doesn't hear the gospel or hears it and rejects it, God's justice would be served, since God is under no obligation to save anyone. The African girl would die just as much an unforgiven sinner as a white healthy, unrepentant adult male here in America who died suddenly in a car accident.

The truth of the matter is that you're such vile, wretched, blasphemous, bigoted antichirst God-hater that you cannot even bring yourself to acknowledging God's goodness and mercy in either of the two positive eternal outcomes. You are committed to eternal self-destruction! I have little doubt that to this end, you have been destined from before the creation of the world.

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7 This precious value, then, is for you who believe. But for those who disbelieve,

"The stone which the builders rejected,
This became the very corner stone,"

8 and,

"A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense";


for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed
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Old 04-22-2020, 07:15 PM   #4612
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But you said above, you liar, was not what you claimed you said in your previous two posts.

And there is justice or mercy with the African girl, as presented in my three biblical scenarios, which you categorically reject even though two of those scenarios had positive eternal outcomes for the girl! In either of those first two scenarios, mercy would have been demonstrated toward the girl without God compromising his justice due to the atoning work of Christ on the Cross!

In the third scenario, where the girl reaches the age of accountability, yet either doesn't hear the gospel or hears it and rejects it, God's justice would be served, since God is under no obligation to save anyone. The African girl would die just as much an unforgiven sinner as a white healthy, unrepentant adult male here in America who died suddenly in a car accident.

The truth of the matter is that you're such vile, wretched, blasphemous, bigoted antichirst God-hater that you cannot even bring yourself to acknowledging God's goodness and mercy in either of the two positive eternal outcomes. You are committed to eternal self-destruction! I have little doubt that to this end, you have been destined from before the creation of the world.

1 Peter 2:7-8
7 This precious value, then, is for you who believe. But for those who disbelieve,

"The stone which the builders rejected,
This became the very corner stone,"

8 and,

"A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense";


for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed
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None of the above makes any sense. None!

You are a heartless SOB trying to weasel out of your mindless knee-jerking fanatical proclamations.

You said hat you said and it is out there for all to see. You painted yourself into an ice cold corner
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None of the above makes any sense. None!

You are a heartless SOB trying to weasel out of your mindless knee-jerking fanatical proclamations.

You said hat you said and it is out there for all to see. You painted yourself into an ice cold corner
Here's something that will make sense to you, you God-hating antichrist:

1 Cor 16:22a
22 If anyone does not love the Lord — a curse be on him.
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Here's something that will make sense to you, you God-hating antichrist:

1 Cor 16:22a
22 If anyone does not love the Lord — a curse be on him.
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I have decided when glancing at any of your idiotic posts, I wIll totally skip any with a biblical quote. So save us both the bother.
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In the third scenario, where the girl reaches the age of accountability, yet either doesn't hear the gospel ...
Why doesn't she hear it? More than likely because, by pure accident of birth, she does not live in a society where it is taught. After all 2/3 of the population of the planet are not Christians. If the girl were born in India she's probably Hindu and has never even heard of the gospel. So she is damned to hell by pure accident. Or did God arrange for her to never hear it? If so then He's a sadist. Or is He helpless in the face of pure accident? If the latter then He's not omnipotent.
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I have decided when glancing at any of your idiotic posts, I wIll totally skip any with a biblical quote. So save us both the bother.
I told him the same thing years ago. He'll never stop.
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Why doesn't she hear it? More than likely because, by pure accident of birth, she does not live in a society where it is taught. After all 2/3 of the population of the planet are not Christians. If the girl were born in India she's probably Hindu and has never even heard of the gospel. So she is damned to hell by pure accident. Or did God arrange for her to never hear it? If so then He's a sadist. Or is He helpless in the face of pure accident? If the latter then He's not omnipotent.
Precisely the inescapable problem of positing evil existing in the universe of God's godlike characteristics - omnipotence, omniscience, omnibenevolence, and omnipresence. No matter how Christians spin it, Yahweh is a cruel deity purposely manufacturing untold misery for humans. Either that God and good exists, or evil does. Not both simultaneously.

And boxcar trying to rationalize the contradiction by "Jesus came to the rescue", is a despicable cowardly cop out. Jews and other religions and many philosophers have been trying to solve this problem way before the advent of the Jesus myth
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Why doesn't she hear it? More than likely because, by pure accident of birth, she does not live in a society where it is taught. After all 2/3 of the population of the planet are not Christians. If the girl were born in India she's probably Hindu and has never even heard of the gospel. So she is damned to hell by pure accident. Or did God arrange for her to never hear it? If so then He's a sadist. Or is He helpless in the face of pure accident? If the latter then He's not omnipotent.
What part of Rom 9:14-18 don't you get?

And God is neither a sadist or unjust if he decreed that she not be saved, since he's not morally obligated to save anyone. God doesn't owe his sovereign grace to anyone. If he owed it, then salvation is not by grace, for by its nature, "grace" is undeserved and unmerited favor bestowed by God some of his natural born, sworn enemies.
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Precisely the inescapable problem of positing evil existing in the universe of God's godlike characteristics - omnipotence, omniscience, omnibenevolence, and omnipresence. No matter how Christians spin it, Yahweh is a cruel deity purposely manufacturing untold misery for humans. Either that God and good exists, or evil does. Not both simultaneously.

And boxcar trying to rationalize the contradiction by "Jesus came to the rescue", is a despicable cowardly cop out. Jews and other religions and many philosophers have been trying to solve this problem way before the advent of the Jesus myth
The problem cannot be solved apart from Jesus! Jesus lived the sinless life that none of us can live and died the death that we all rightly deserve. This is why God became incarnate in his Son!

There is no "contradiction", except the one that is a figment of your profane imagination.

But fear not! The day is rapidly approaching for you when all this will be made perfectly crystal clear to you.
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What part of Rom 9:14-18 don't you get?
What part of "scripture proves nothing" don't you get?

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And God is neither a sadist or unjust if he decreed that she not be saved, since he's not morally obligated to save anyone.
But he is morally obligated. He's a moral monster undeserving of any love or praise, let alone worship.
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