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View Poll Results: Mega Barn "Super" Trainers are............... (You can choose more than one answer)
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Old 06-21-2018, 04:28 PM   #46
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Old 06-21-2018, 04:47 PM   #48
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Why would horsemen not want this? I mean, if you are cheating you obviously don't, but otherwise why not?
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Old 06-21-2018, 04:50 PM   #49
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Why would horsemen not want this? I mean, if you are cheating you obviously don't, but otherwise why not?
A lot of high profile TOC board members would be outed including B.B. IMO.
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Horse racing must also deal with performance-hindering drugs that could be used to stop a horse from its best performance, which is not generally considered a problem in human sport.

Arthur continued to point out the need for out-of-competition testing because "races are won in training," where he said doping is most effective.

"Everyone also knows when we are going to test the horses—right after the race," he said. "That is pretty easy to plan around if you are bent on cheating. ... Here is the question for this board and the leaders in this sport—do you want a real anti-doping program or not? Bluntly, without an (out-of-competition) program with teeth, you won't have one."

Arthur questioned why the TOC and CTT would object to the out-of-competition testing, and multiple heated, sometimes personal, exchanges between him, Avioli, and Balch followed.


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Out the cheats.
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Out the cheats.
Why? Don't a few of you in this thread already know who they all are? Don't tell me you're guessing...
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:12 PM   #53
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Why? Don't a few of you in this thread already know who they all are? Don't tell me you're guessing...
Yes we do.
But, shouldn't everyone know?

Or are they too big to fail?
Crooked game will try to stop it from coming out?

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Old 06-22-2018, 01:45 AM   #54
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Yes we do.
No...you actually don't.

There are a LOT more trainers out there cheating then you could possibly imagine. From buzzers to you name it...it's happening.

But you know what? It's been happening FOREVER.

And the game goes on.

Adapt or die.
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Limit stalls to a set number to increase the number of trainers at a meet. This will increase field size.

Otherwise.............. Saturday's 4th at BEL is presented for your viewing/wagering pleasure.

Anyone know how many stalls Chad Brown and Todd Pletcher have at SAR for the upcoming meet?
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email blast this morning.

I think he (Rick Arthur) has a responsibility to go into more detail after his explosive allegations.

Everyone is thinking it but not directly saying it so I will. Does Rick Arthur believe Bob Baffert is doping in training?
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No...you actually don't.

There are a LOT more trainers out there cheating then you could possibly imagine. From buzzers to you name it...it's happening.

But you know what? It's been happening FOREVER.

And the game goes on.

Adapt or die.
I don’t understand your post. Are you defending the cheating?
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I don’t understand your post. Are you defending the cheating?
The true PA comes out FF in his previous response.

He knows the game smells from corruption, yet he's usually on his soapbox defending it.

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I don’t understand your post. Are you defending the cheating?
He isn't defending anything, just making a statement about the realities in racing.
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