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06-15-2013, 09:39 AM
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Stephen Foster H.Grade 1
1 Golden Ticket 12/1 Joel Rosario 117 4 C L Kenneth G. McPeek
2 Fort Larned 3/1 Brian Joseph Hernandez, Jr. 121 5 H L Ian R. Wilkes
3 Ron The Greek 3/1 Jose Lezcano 120 6 H L William I. Mott
4 Take Charge Indy 5/2 Rosie Napravnik 119 4 C L Patrick B. Byrne
5 Pool Play 15/1 Miguel Mena 115 8 H L Mark E. Casse
6 Successful Dan 2/1 Julien R. Leparoux 121 7 G L Charles LoPresti
who you got? pics coming later, short field but interesting race.
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06-15-2013, 04:25 PM
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Im tossing the 1 and 5 and turning it into a '4 horse race'. Dont think Ft Larned is 'sharp' so im going to toss him. I kind of like the 3 and the 4 and just hoping Dan is 'too old' to beat this kind of horse.
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06-15-2013, 04:40 PM
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06-15-2013, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Im tossing the 1 and 5 and turning it into a '4 horse race'. Dont think Ft Larned is 'sharp' so im going to toss him. I kind of like the 3 and the 4 and just hoping Dan is 'too old' to beat this kind of horse.
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I HEAR YOU ON THIS HOPE YOU PLAY THAT!
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06-15-2013, 05:20 PM
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I HEAR YOU ON THIS HOPE YOU PLAY THAT!
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Im between The Greek and Rosie's horse, i'll decide with 0 MTP after i see warmups and prices!
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06-15-2013, 05:23 PM
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06-15-2013, 06:46 PM
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had such an easy trip last time pressing a moderate pace in the clear outside. The funny thing is he steps up today and with the expected pace scenario and the added distance, he may run about the same actual speed today. He's consistent enough to use if you think he gets a trip.
assuming Fort Larned is healthy, he's a contender, and today he could get a good trip as the early inside speed.
and seem to offer value here.
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06-15-2013, 07:54 PM
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They've all won over the track, so that will not be an excuse.
4 Take Charge Indy - shows 2 sins when he got the lead in very slow time for this class. Against a normal pace, he just a normal horse.
Golden Ticket - has been able to match any of the "normal" races by TCI
Fort Larned - what is up with this guy? Lose his map to the winner's circle? If he gets there, he has to be up close, and that means TCI is in his way. He can't win off a fast pace, but he can set a pace when he needs to.
Ron the Greek, won this race last year, comes in to it off a sharp race and he is tied for the top fig in this.
Successful Dan is right there on the figures on dirt, and he has shown he close against a slow pace, he is
probably the best late horse in the field
Gotta see the odds, but I think Dan will be the play here.
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06-15-2013, 08:00 PM
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Stephen Foster H.Grade 1
Well, Foster wrote "Beautiful Dreamer," so I'll go W/P on the .
Didn't Casse score with this one over the track at a huge mutuel a few meetings back (or was that another track?).
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06-15-2013, 08:01 PM
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Hey Ralph......June 18, 2011......CD, R12 - You called Pool Play at 36-! in this race.
Who ya got tonight?!
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Didn't Casse score with this one over the track at a huge mutuel a few meetings back (or was that another track?).
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Yes, with Pool Play!
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06-15-2013, 09:25 PM
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and seem to offer value here.
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wow they are really over-betting my 4 and Rosie.
4 is supposed to be a decent value who may hit the board, not the fav bet down WPS
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06-15-2013, 09:30 PM
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06-15-2013, 09:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
wow they are really over-betting my 4 and Rosie.
4 is supposed to be a decent value who may hit the board, not the fav bet down WPS
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Somehow the 1 is the fave in the show pool at this moment.
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06-15-2013, 09:36 PM
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I'm going against the grain here.
10W 30Plc 150SHW on Ron the Greek.
Fort larned is a danger, but I'm not sure he's in form. Successful Dan is probably the 2nd best horse in here, he's not really a true early speed horse so he's not going to feast on this small field. Take Charge Indy is in form and gets a dream trip but he is a little cheap.
Ron The Greek is the best animal and even against the grain in this small field he should compete here.
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06-15-2013, 09:37 PM
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The 1 and 5 have no chance in my opinion. 2 doesn't look to be in top form. The dump job of the jock scared me, and the last race was even worse. I consider him the underlay and the reason there is value in the race.
That leaves the 3, 4, and 6. The 4 ran huge in a G3 at Gulfstream, but did so tracking a slow pace and drawing away. So, it comes down to the 3 and 6 for me. I'll favor the 6 due to his better tactical speed. The 3 is the defending champ, but won the race getting a dream trip.
Last edited by cj; 06-15-2013 at 09:39 PM.
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