The Conservative Bible Project

[hcap]

Separation of church and state was set up to avoid religion influencing the state, and now we see the reverse is also true

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Liberal bias has become the single biggest distortion in modern Bible translations. There are three sources of errors in conveying biblical meaning:

* lack of precision in the original language, such as terms underdeveloped to convey new concepts of Christianity
* lack of precision in modern language
* translation bias in converting the original language to the modern one.

Of these three sources of errors, the last introduces the largest error, and the biggest component of that error is liberal bias. Large reductions in this error can be attained simply by retranslating the KJV into modern English.[1]

As of 2009, there is no fully conservative translation of the Bible which satisfies the following ten guidelines:[2]

1. Framework against Liberal Bias: providing a strong framework that enables a thought-for-thought translation without corruption by liberal bias

2. Not Emasculated: avoiding unisex, "gender inclusive" language, and other modern emasculation of Christianity

3. Not Dumbed Down: not dumbing down the reading level, or diluting the intellectual force and logic of Christianity; the NIV is written at only the 7th grade level[3]

4. Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms: using powerful new conservative terms as they develop;[4] defective translations use the word "comrade" three times as often as "volunteer"; similarly, updating words which have a change in meaning, such as "word", "peace", and "miracle".

5. Combat Harmful Addiction: combating addiction by using modern terms for it, such as "gamble" rather than "cast lots";[5] using modern political terms, such as "register" rather than "enroll" for the census

6. Accept the Logic of Hell: applying logic with its full force and effect, as in not denying or downplaying the very real existence of Hell or the Devil.

7. Express Free Market Parables; explaining the numerous economic parables with their full free-market meaning

8. Exclude Later-Inserted Liberal Passages: excluding the later-inserted liberal passages that are not authentic, such as the adulteress story

9. Credit Open-Mindedness of Disciples: crediting open-mindedness, often found in youngsters like the eyewitnesses Mark and John, the authors of two of the Gospels

10. Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness: preferring conciseness to the liberal style of high word-to-substance ratio; avoid compound negatives and unnecessary ambiguities; prefer concise, consistent use of the word "Lord" rather than "Jehovah" or "Yahweh" or "Lord God."

[hcap]

http://don-paskini.blogspot.com/2009...ive-bible.html

1. Republican Jesus:

Republican Jesus is the central figure in the Republican religion. Republican Jesus shares many superficial qualities with the biblical Jesus, and in fact a minority of historians believe the two are actually the same figure. However, a growing body of evidence suggests that Republican Jesus was actually created in 1964 aboard a Goldwater campaign bus, and was recognized as the one true Republican messiah in 1980, in which role he continues to this day.

# The biblical Jesus preached at length about renouncing worldly possessions and giving to the poor. Republican Jesus believes that such handouts merely encourage the poor to be lazy, and that Christian charity is better practiced through massive tax breaks for the wealthiest citizens, who could then be expected to let the money "tinkle down" to the poor in the form of honest, if low-paying, jobs at upright Republican institutions like Wal-Mart.

# Whereas the biblical Jesus is not known to have ever addressed the subject of homosexuality at all, let alone gay marriage, homosexuality is just about all Republican Jesus ever talks about.

# The biblical Jesus threw the money changers out of the Temple. Republican Jesus welcomed them in, even going so far as to open the first known church inside a Wal-Mart.

[hcap]

This commie passage has gotta go...


Acts 4:32-35 (King James Version)

32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.

33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,

35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

[Overlay]

Originally Posted by hcap

Separation of church and state was set up to avoid religion influencing the state, and now we see the reverse is also true

The purpose of the first amendment was to keep government from controlling the free exercise of religion through the establishment of a state religion -- not to restrain the influence of the free exercise of religion on government.

[hcap]

I do not disagree, but it has evolved into either influencing the other.
We do not want the government interfering in religion, nor do we want religion influencing politics. A state sponsored religion would be an example of religious control.

"The pilgrims were ultimately forced to leave Europe and flee to the land we now know as America because of persecution and oppression. This persecution and oppression was a result of the Church of England, the Anglican Church, becoming the state church. It was an unholy alliance giving more power to both the church and the state to control the people".

I think the modern day equivalent is the undue influence of the religious right-Robertson, Falwell, and others to sway citizens politically. The unabashed alliance between the Christian right and the republican party is another

[hcap]

http://www.theocracywatch.org/

"Christian Reconstructionism" is a form of "Dominion Theology" that influenced a tendency toward "Dominionism" in the Christian Right and certain evangelical churches such as The Assemblies of God. But, lumping of these theologies together is neither accurate, nor fair.

How did this confusion get started?

In a September 1994 plenary speech to the Christian Coalition national convention, Rev. D. James Kennedy said that "true Christian citizenship" involves an active engagement in society to "take dominion over all things as vice-regents of God." Kennedy's remarks were reported in February 1995 by sociologist and journalist Sara Diamond, who wrote that Kennedy had "echoed the Reconstructionist line."

More than anyone else, it was Sara Diamond who popularized the term "dominionism," using it to describe a growing political tendency in the Christian Right. It is a useful term that has, unfortunately, been used in a variety of ways that are neither accurate nor useful. Diamond was careful to discuss how the small Christian Reconstructionist theological movement had helped introduce "dominionism" as a concept into the larger and more diverse social/political movements called the Christian Right.

Dominionism is therefore a tendency among Protestant Christian evangelicals and fundamentalists that encourages them to not only be active political participants in civic society, but also seek to dominate the political process as part of a mandate from God.

This highly politicized concept of dominionism is based on the Bible's text in Genesis 1:26:

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." (King James Version).

"Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'" (New International Version).


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Then there is teaching Creationism in public schools. Religion influencing the public school system.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by hcap

Separation of church and state was set up to avoid religion influencing the state, and now we see the reverse is also true

No it was not.
Freedom of religion was set up.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

No it was not.
Freedom of religion was set up.

I said to Overlay. "I do not disagree, but it has evolved into either influencing the other."

We do not want the government interfering in religion, nor do we want religion influencing politics. When a state becomes synonymous with a particular denomination, this happens.

"The pilgrims were ultimately forced to leave Europe and flee to the land we now know as America because of persecution and oppression. This persecution and oppression was a result of the Church of England, the Anglican Church, becoming the state church. It was an unholy alliance giving more power to both the church and the state to control the people".

Yea, the state persecuted but it was in the bag of the Anglicans. Sort of like the religious right dictating civil statutes. Or the extreme fundamental Islamists burning Buddhists Temples.

[Tom]

And we have evolved into the absolutely ridiculous age where people protest a manger on Christmas Eve.

People afraid of that should be rounded up and tested for brain activity.

[hcap]

Minor offense. Innocuous for the most part Doesn't necessarily bother me.Unless another relious group objects and feels excluded by the governmental facility hosting the event Here people should recognize a universal generic religious expression of love and compassion.

However teaching Creationism alongside evolution as science is another story. Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson, or the hot shot General announcing "My God is tougher than yours" Are not minor.

[Snag]

"donpaskini

Traditional enemy of free speech. This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places, incidents and circumstances are a product of the author's imagination. Any similarity to people, dead or alive, to events or places, is entirely accidental."

hcap, did you read the header on your link?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Snag

"donpaskini

Traditional enemy of free speech. This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places, incidents and circumstances are a product of the author's imagination. Any similarity to people, dead or alive, to events or places, is entirely accidental."

hcap, did you read the header on your link?

Mr. Sherlock Snag, I realize conservatives have no sense of humor. Of course it is a work of fiction-a funny work of fiction commenting on the even funnier reality of the The Conservative Bible Project

http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project

Maybe that utterly unfunny, stupid and wretched "Red Eye" on Faux will do a show on it. I don't think they could possibly get the inside joke tho' of conservapedia

The real question is.....Is The Conservative Bible Project a real site done by loonie conservatives or is it also a work of fiction? Maybe a liburil conspiracy to discredit real Amuricans??

[Snag]

Haha hcap... isn't it strange that you didn't pass it off as a joke in your title or comments. Haha... that's really funny now when you're called on it!

[Show Me the Wire]

hcap:

Your eagerness to denounce (based on a joke) the Bible exhibits your fanatical embracing of the progressive left's strategy for delegitimizing The State of Israel.

That is all it is, nothing more and nothing less.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

http://don-paskini.blogspot.com/2009...ive-bible.html

# The biblical Jesus preached at length about renouncing worldly possessions and giving to the poor.

(emphasis mine)

What's the matter -- run out of money to have your scripts filled yesterday? But be that as it may, provide chapter and verse, please, on your outlandish claims.

Boxcar