Laurel is dead? Pimlico rebuild?

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by The_Turf_Monster

"Finished," which is why row houses are starting to list at over a million in some parts of the city

Gentrification happens in spite of a bunch of things. They are just pushing money around. It happens everywhere. But that doesn’t mean the city isn’t still a crap hole

[ronsmac]

Originally Posted by The_Turf_Monster

"Finished," which is why row houses are starting to list at over a million in some parts of the city

Auto theft is up 95% in the city. It’s hard to believe but murder is actually down and we may only get 310 or 320 instead of 340. Dr’s at shock trauma say it would probably be 500 plus a year but they do a great job saving people with gun shot wounds. Good luck if you buy one of those million dollar row houses.

[dilanesp]

I'll avoid getting too political but simply observe that urban crime seems to be cyclical and we seem to be entering into a bad cycle right now, and you see that all over the place, in wealthier cities like San Francisco as well as less wealthy ones like Baltimore.

Cities have a way of coming back though. Hopefully, we'll figure out the proper measures to slow this trend down.

I still think all this effort to keep a horse race inside the city limits of Baltimore is completely crazy, though. Let it go.

[azeri98]

Originally Posted by dilanesp

I'll avoid getting too political but simply observe that urban crime seems to be cyclical and we seem to be entering into a bad cycle right now, and you see that all over the place, in wealthier cities like San Francisco as well as less wealthy ones like Baltimore.

Cities have a way of coming back though. Hopefully, we'll figure out the proper measures to slow this trend down.

I still think all this effort to keep a horse race inside the city limits of Baltimore is completely crazy, though. Let it go.

It will never happen anymore, too many free handouts and not enough revenue. Personal responsibility doesn't matter anymore. We have the same issue in our big cities

[Redboard]

Originally Posted by ronsmac

Auto theft is up 95% in the city. It’s hard to believe but murder is actually down and we may only get 310 or 320 instead of 340. Dr’s at shock trauma say it would probably be 500 plus a year but they do a great job saving people with gun shot wounds. Good luck if you buy one of those million dollar row houses.

Don't get too optimistic about the decrease in murders. Many of the large cities have decided to not report all of their wards' crimes to the FBI. They don't want to be at the top of any lists. Their mantra now is " just because we have a high crime rate, doesn't mean we're not a good place to live." Ok....I guess.

[classhandicapper]

Maybe murder rates are declining by attrition. A lot of murders are drug and gang related. Maybe so many rivals have killed each other there are fewer murderers left for the time being.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by Redboard

Don't get too optimistic about the decrease in murders. Many of the large cities have decided to not report all of their wards' crimes to the FBI. They don't want to be at the top of any lists. Their mantra now is " just because we have a high crime rate, doesn't mean we're not a good place to live." Ok....I guess.

Dead on target. The FBI Crime reports have always been fudged before sending them into the FBI. Chiefs and Deputy Chiefs get promoted on taking over departments or sections of the city and knocking down the crime rates. It’s all bullshit.

The reporting is about as accurate as death certs during Covid

[ubercapper]

It's not just the FBI reports.



One of the major networks yesterday did a story of infant sleep related deaths due to snugglers/infant sleepers and the head of the CPSC said the numbers are under reported because the CPSC only gets some deaths reported to them directly and are required to get the numbers from the manufacturers themselves, which of course are whatever those manufacturers want them to be.

[Al Gobbi]

Pimlico is ceasing simulcast operations at the end of June

https://www.marylandmatters.org/2023...ing-operation/

[PhantomOnTour]

Originally Posted by Al Gobbi

Pimlico is ceasing simulcast operations at the end of June

https://www.marylandmatters.org/2023...ing-operation/

Uh oh - that is bad news.
Article states that there is currently no schedule in place for live racing in Maryland beyond June 30th.

Pimlico meet ends June 4th and Laurel only has scheduled races thru the 30th

[PaceAdvantage]

The end of OTB at Pimlico is scheduled to occur on the same date as the expiration of an agreement between the Maryland Jockey Club, Maryland Thoroughbred Horsemen’s Association and the Maryland Horse Breeders Association for continued operation of Pimlico and Laurel Park. The date extending their 10-year agreement already has been extended from Dec. 31, 2022, to midnight June 30.

So just because they are continuing to negotiate with the horsemen because a 10y deal has ended and a new one has to be struck...this means it's the end of racing in Maryland?

Something tells me my money would be safe betting on more racing after June 30.

Laurel hasn't scheduled dates after June 30 because they can't until a new deal with the horsemen is in place.

[Robert Fischer]

I hope they get this stuff straight.


as far as simulcast at Pimlico, disappointing... Is that also a contract issue, or is that set?

Mixed signals.

In the past ... hearing a push for Laurel to get the Preakness... Now we're hearing not only is Pimlico keeping the Preakness and getting $$, but that Laurel is suddenly unsafe and so the logical thing to do is to end racing there, and make the unsafe track a training facility?.

So now they are going to eventually greatly expand Pimlico's live racing with all the races from the unsafe Laurel.

So clearly, the logical step is to close simulcasting at Pimlico.

It's Racing so you just kind of go with the flow and suspend your disbelief I guess.

[proximity]

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer

It's Racing so you just kind of go with the flow and suspend your disbelief I guess.

this!!

i'm thinking of summing it up in a new book called the great light rail robbery: horse wizards, lost racinos, and painting pimlico red by tim onium.

look for it soon at gamblers book or drf press!

[thespaah]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I wish they would get more than a token amount of race dates, that track is only about 60 miles from me.

Colonial is a nice place.
I wish it had a longer meeting.
It's emphasis on turf racing makes for larger fields. The racing is competitive.
From my location here in NC, this is also the closest race track. About 300 miles ( 5 hours). I try to get there at least once every meeting.
Oh, there are several nice golf courses in the area as well. Bonus if one is looking for something to do on dark days

[Thomas Roulston]

Colonial is awesome - but the turf course(s) need to be reconfigured so that turf races at 6 1/2 furlongs, 7 furlongs, and 7 1/2 furlongs can be run (one or more of these distances are run on the turf courses at Santa Anita, Gulfstream, Woodbine, etc.).