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06-03-2021, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Not a problem whatsoever. The OT and NT are in complete harmony.
And, man, you're on glutton for punishment! Why are you still backing this dead horse Singer?  |
The only glutton for punishment in this thread is YOU. No one here supports your myopic religious opinions., and yet you keep coming back for more and more...God knows what.
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06-03-2021, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
It's not Singer.
It's Isaiah...for starters
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Who are you gonna believe...Isaiah, or Boxcar?
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06-03-2021, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
The bible says that the "Messiah" will put an end to war, and no nation will ever again take up arms against another. And Boxcar has the balls to come here and tell us that JESUS was the "Messiah"...and that he has left nothing undone.  |
This Redemptive History play on this world stage is in two parts, Mr. Thask. Part One is the story of the life and redemptive work of Jesus on the Cross to [ save the world.
Luke 19:9-10
9 Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. 10 For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost."
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47 "As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it.
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But Part 2 of the play is much, much shorter. In fact, it consists of only a Day -- a day in which the bible calls Judgment Day, a/k/a The Day of the Lord.
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topi...ges-The-Wicked
These two stagest to redemptive history are not that difficult to understand. One deals with salvation. The other with judgment.
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06-03-2021, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
This Redemptive History play on this world stage is in two parts, Mr. Thask. Part One is the story of the life and redemptive work of Jesus on the Cross to [ save the world.
Luke 19:9-10
9 Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. 10 For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost."
NIV
And,
John 12:47
47 "As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it.
NIV
But Part 2 of the play is much, much shorter. In fact, it consists of only a Day -- a day in which the bible calls Judgment Day, a/k/a The Day of the Lord.
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topi...ges-The-Wicked
These two stagest to redemptive history are not that difficult to understand. One deals with salvation. The other with judgment. |
I am no "son of Abraham"...so, I have nothing to worry about.
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06-03-2021, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
I am no "son of Abraham"...so, I have nothing to worry about.
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Actually, you have quite a bit to be worried about. For only the children of the Promise are the spiritual sons and daughters of Abraham. But the rest will be condemned on that dreadful Day of the Lord.
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06-03-2021, 05:33 PM
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Actually, you have quite a bit to be worried about. For only the children of the Promise are the spiritual sons and daughters of Abraham. But the rest will be condemned on that dreadful Day of the Lord.
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I don't believe a word of it.
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06-03-2021, 05:45 PM
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I don't believe a word of it.
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Of course. I wish I could tell you that you'll have all eternity to reconsider, but things like repentance or reconsideration won't be on your menu of options.
If unbelievers could truly contemplate the fathomless depth of despair that will ensue from consciously existing in utter hopelessness forever, that would be enough to terrify a soul to cry out to God for his great salvation. We can all "run from God", as Adam and Eve did after they sinned; but what we can never escape from ourselves. Everyone of us will have to live forever with our choices. For many, that will work out fine; but most, not so much.
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06-03-2021, 06:19 PM
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Rabbi Singer explaining what Jews devote their lives to and what they’d be willing to give their lives for begs the question...
Being the last recorded instance of Jewish martyrdom was Rabbi Akiva in 135 CE...
Are there still Jews who would choose death rather than abandon their faith?
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06-03-2021, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by boxcar
Of course. I wish I could tell you that you'll have all eternity to reconsider, but things like repentance or reconsideration won't be on your menu of options.
If unbelievers could truly contemplate the fathomless depth of despair that will ensue from consciously existing in utter hopelessness forever, that would be enough to terrify a soul to cry out to God for his great salvation. We can all "run from God", as Adam and Eve did after they sinned; but what we can never escape from ourselves. Everyone of us will have to live forever with our choices. For many, that will work out fine; but most, not so much.
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My conscience is clear, Boxcar. So much so...that I sleep like a baby. I help people when I can...and I never willingly hurt anybody. You may not believe this...but I won't even hurt a little bug that I sometimes find crawling on my basement floor. These are the choices that I make...and I have no problem living with them.
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06-03-2021, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Rabbi Singer explaining what Jews devote their lives to and what they’d be willing to give their lives for begs the question...
Being the last recorded instance of Jewish martyrdom was Rabbi Akiva in 135 CE...
Are there still Jews who would choose death rather than abandon their faith?
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Who would answer "Yes" to this, with a knife held to their throat?
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06-03-2021, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Rabbi Singer explaining what Jews devote their lives to and what they’d be willing to give their lives for begs the question...
Being the last recorded instance of Jewish martyrdom was Rabbi Akiva in 135 CE...
Are there still Jews who would choose death rather than abandon their faith?
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I'm sure there are...just as I'm sure there are such people in all religions...
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06-03-2021, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TJDave
Rabbi Singer explaining what Jews devote their lives to and what they’d be willing to give their lives for begs the question...
Being the last recorded instance of Jewish martyrdom was Rabbi Akiva in 135 CE...
Are there still Jews who would choose death rather than abandon their faith?
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Sure. Messianic Jews who believe in Yeshua.
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06-03-2021, 06:49 PM
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Sure. Messianic Jews who believe in Yeshua.
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Rabbi Singer would too...and he is a Rabbinic Jew who DOESN'T believe in Yeshua.
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06-03-2021, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
It's not Singer.
It's Isaiah...for starters
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Shirley U. Jest. Isaiah is so messianic in character many Christians consider it the OT version of the Gospel in prophetic form.
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06-03-2021, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
My conscience is clear, Boxcar. So much so...that I sleep like a baby. I help people when I can...and I never willingly hurt anybody. You may not believe this...but I won't even hurt a little bug that I sometimes find crawling on my basement floor. These are the choices that I make...and I have no problem living with them.
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I don't hurt the bugs either. I call Orkin.
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